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Aceguy
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Initially Posted - 07/24/2005 : 23:50:53

I will be trailering my new C25 for at least a year, probably longer. My primary goal is to make rigging and packing up as streamlined as possible. From all of the research I have done so far, the Huntington style rigging shown on a tech article on this site looks like the best setup for me.

It appears that with that setup I can set up a split backstay and then use quick releases to quickly disconnect the backstay and rear lower shrouds. Then I just connect the backstay to the boom, hook up a boom cradle, and use the main sheet to drop the mast to a cradle that I set up on the bow pulpit. Then I can pull the bolt from the tabernacle, release the boom cradle, and slide the mast (boom, main sail and all) back into the cockpit. Then, I could even reconnect the boom cradle back in the cockpit as long as I don't have anything low to go under between me and the lake, or I could set the mast to one side of the stern pulpit and the boom would stick off of the other side a couple of feet. Either way, it seems like this way I can leave the main sail and boom attached and really minimize rigging time.

Questions:
1.)Is there an even faster way for one person to set up?

2.)Does anybody make the jumper shrouds necessary for this setup out of stainless rod rather than cable, or do you have to custom make those if you want to go that route rather than cable jumpers?

3.)I noticed that all of the shrouds as well as the backstay & forestay are made of twisted solid wires, rather than twisted sets of smaller twisted cables, as in 7X19 aircraft cable. Is there a reason that you need to use this solid twisted cable vs. 7x19 stainless aircraft cable for shrouds/stays? When I replace the rigging I was considering using 7x19 stainless aircraft cable, but I figured there may be a very specific reason that they used the cable they did rather than 7x19, so I thought I would check.

Thanks for any help you might be able to provide.

Eric

Eric Freedman
1984 SR/WK #4671
Folsom, CA

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Aceguy
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Response Posted - 07/25/2005 : 10:43:11

After doing some more research, I see that the break strength of 1X19 304 SS cable is 4,400lbs, while 7X19 316 SS cable is 3,700lbs, so maybe they used 1X19 purely for strengh? I guess my question would be, isn't the latter more than adequate? I mean, do the swaged fittings on that cable have anywhere near 3,700lbs rating before failure? Also, it seems like if I am stepping and un-stepping the mast alot, the extra flexibility of the 7X19 would be nice, and minimize kinking of the cable when it isn't taut.

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 07/25/2005 : 15:15:25

Eric, While the Huntington system lowers the mast forward, the 'A' Frame system lowers toward the stern, which to me seems a more natural way. With a mast support with a roller at the stern it is very easy to roll the mast back to get the tabernacle connected. There has been much discussion on this subject, check the archives. The wife and I raise and lower the mast at least 2 times a year and we have found the 'A' frame works very well for us. I can even raise or lower solo with the 'A' frame if need be, it is nice to have the extra hand to keep all of the lines clear as the mast goes up.

There are many small tricks that we have developed over the years that make setup faster and easier. Our boat lives in a slip at the marina so we won't be raising as often as you, take your time to start, keep your cool when things don't go as expected and plan on an hour and a half for setup. If it goes faster, rejoice!!

And one last word of advise, if you are taking friends out for a sail, have the boat setup and in the water before they arrive. Stuff just seems to always happen when you have an audience.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 07/27/2005 : 02:27:16

I agree with Ed on this,
I just put my boat back in the water after a trip to Huntington lake. I had it from trailer to sail away in just about exactly 1.5 hours. This was working by myself, till a grabbed a friend to help slip the boat in the water. I have a fin so there are a couple of extra steps for me too. Loading took longer when leaving the mountains. Work is hard to do after 3 days of sailing in the high country and that chair and beer looked awfull inviting when I was half way done.
I can all be done by yourself but goes quicker with two if you both know your assigned jobs and get them done.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/27/2005 : 10:01:15

Another mast raising 'tool' that hasn't been mentioned in recent threads is the 'mast up'... basically an extensible mast crutch that mounts in the rudder gudgeons.

Lower it to trailer, extend it just prior to raising the mast. Gives you an important 'head start' in the raising process (20 degrees of lift or so) so you're not lifting the mast from a dead horizontal position. Not sure if they are still in production of not, but could be easily fabricated.

Have photos that I can PM you if you wish.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 08/03/2005 : 02:36:23

I have a mast up my neighbor and I put together. I used 1" box tubing and it is kind of light weight. Another friend bought one from CD. He does welding but decided it wasn't worht the bother making it himself -- He did make his own trailer and I guess was worn out from that.

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