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Frank Hopper
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Initially Posted - 07/26/2005 :  10:17:42  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Quick and easy.

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Rich G
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  11:08:08  Show Profile
yes, but what if it's your Main Halyard that needs to be re-run?

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  12:34:52  Show Profile
Sorry Frank, I do not understand what I am looking at...more explantion would be greatly appreciated because I need to get my masthead light fixed before I can try some night sailing.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  14:40:28  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by existentialsailor</i>
<br />Sorry Frank, I do not understand what I am looking at...more explantion would be greatly appreciated because I need to get my masthead light fixed before I can try some night sailing.
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Canvas steps that have sail slugs on them. You hoist them up your mast track and climb them. On this boat there are three halyards, two were tied to the canvas steps, the main and one headsail halyard. (Obviously the headsail halyard has to be tossed over the spreader and was made off after the main halyard hauled the canvas steps up the ladder). That left one for the safety line tied to the bosun's belt. The bosun's belt safeties in around the mast while you are up there. This is a friend who was replacing my Windex that was blown off the boat while I was sailing the day before. Several weeks later I had sold this boat and the Windex was blown off the new boat. That one was replaced just using a bosun's chair. The chair was easier but the steps seemed safer.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  15:15:19  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
That looks like a great concept. I wonder if they make one that would fit a kerf for a bolt rope.
We are constantly sending a guy up in one of these (see below) when we travel with the Evelyn 32 to put the windex on and take care of any other up the mast things. That might be a halfway decent idea. Do you know how big they come Frank? Maybe one in the 40 foot range?





If its your main halyard rich, just hoist it up on the jib or spinnaker halyard. For the wasp we actually us the mast hoist, it has an electric winch and is bolted to terra firma. It at least feels safer.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  15:40:38  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Actually the product is called [url="http://www.mastmate.com/spec.htm"]Mast Mate[/url] and it comes in many lengths.

There is one on eBay
[url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mast-Mate_W0QQitemZ4564937875QQcategoryZ31281QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]eBay Mast Mate[/url]

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  20:02:41  Show Profile
that thing looked soo cool I had to bid on it

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  20:09:41  Show Profile
I'm not much on heights, I'd rather lower the mast.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  20:17:35  Show Profile
I wish I had that thing two weeks ago when I lowered my mast to install lazy jacks. I would have tried to drill, tap, and install the upper tangs with it. could have been exciting.

I hope none of you out bid me

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  20:47:00  Show Profile
<font color="blue"> ... I hope none of you out bid me. - Frank</font id="blue">

Actually Frank, you might <i>want</i> someone to outbid you ... are you sure you want one for a 45' mast? I suppose the sail slugs might fit in our masts, but you'll sure have a lot of extra length piled on the deck ... 'your call

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  21:01:47  Show Profile
They don't make a 45 foot model, so I wonder what it is that's on ebay, probably the 42 foot model.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/26/2005 :  23:45:44  Show Profile
I'd guess a sharp knife could turn that 42' model into a 30' model... with a 12' mini mast climber left over for somebody to use for ascending the mast on their Laser. ;&gt;)

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/27/2005 :  06:02:50  Show Profile
See, Bruce (AKA Clam) has it right. A knife will fix it, or I'll just keep it long for my next boat. For one fifth the price of a new one I'll deal with it.
I'll probably get outbid anyways, therefore, a moot point.
I have gotten great deals on Harken blocks and line on E-bay though.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 07/27/2005 :  09:01:53  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by existentialsailor</i>
<br />Sorry Frank, I do not understand what I am looking at...more explantion would be greatly appreciated because I need to get my masthead light fixed before I can try some night sailing.
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Rick, Why do you need a masthead light to night sail? The light at the mast head is an anchor light. The light mid-way to the top in front of the mast is a running (steaming)light for use when motoring.The only lights you need are your stern and bow lights when under sail.

Al
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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 07/27/2005 :  09:50:06  Show Profile
Al,

Capri's do not come with steaming lights. It is impossible (for me) to sail through the 12 foot wide channel to return to the cove my slip is in, I have to motor. As such, the rules on my lake and as someone else pointed out, the inland water rules in general, require a steaming or masthead light when motoring. My cove is also where the marine patrol headquarters are located. They don't give breaks. Anyway, for a few hundred dollars, I'll learn how to drop my own mast. I'm just not going to do it while it's in the slip surrounded by other boats.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/27/2005 :  10:22:40  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
mastheads are 360 degrees and counter to the specifications for a steaming light which is supposed to be forward facing. I think I would go talk to the boys in blue myself and ask them what they will accept until you can get a proper steaming light installed. There are many "portable" lights available that could attach to the mast when you are under power. Remember this steaming light is also required on powerboats so height above the water is minimal, it does not need to be halfway up your mast.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 07/27/2005 :  11:24:26  Show Profile
http://www.boat-ed.com/nh/course/p4-9_navlights.htm

"Power-Driven Vessels Less Than 20 Meters Long When Underway

An all-round white light or both a masthead light and a sternlight. These lights must be visible from a distance of at least two miles on a dark clear night. The all-round white light (or the masthead light) must be at least one meter (3.3 ft.) higher than the sidelights."

That's what they are looking for here in NH. Notice the diagram doesn't match the explanation and they seem to use masthead and steaming interchangably...

J boats come with neither light, the fleet on the lake was told to install them.

I'll probably end up installing a second light on the mast when I fix my masthead light. That way I'm covered.

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John G-
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Response Posted - 07/27/2005 :  12:02:13  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
<font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="2">I have been using “Captain Al’s Mast Ladder. It has PVC tubes on each rung for a platform for your foot and they hold the rungs open for easier entry of your foot. Having said that, Practical Sailor likes the Mast Mate better because it makes you hug the mast as you go up rather than reaching for the PVC rung above you. Anyway I am happy with Captain Al’s.
One piece of advice, I found if you attached a line to the bottom of the ladder after it is all the way up and put some tension on the ladder it is much more stable. I would also say, wear a harness and clip into a sling around the mast or onto the ladder for safety while you are up there</font id="size2">.</font id="Comic Sans MS">

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