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ArgonautEC
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Initially Posted - 08/05/2005 :  08:53:22  Show Profile  Visit ArgonautEC's Homepage
Well,,,,she's new to me. Just purchased a 1987 wing keel Catalina 25 last weekend. How many wing keel C25's are there compared to the fin and centerboard versions? How does the wing keel boats perform vs. fin and centerboards? I'll also need to find a trailer. Someone suggested an EZ Loader trailer. They said an EZ Loader trailer cost a little more but is worth it. Any suggestions on a trailer? I noticed an email referring to an A-Frame for stepping the mast. Where can I find out more about an A-frame? I'll also need to come up with a catchy boat name. The sailors I hang out with (men and women) are into "rather salty" names for their boats, for example, "Breaking Wind". Any other good links and sources for information would be greatly appreciated.

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Earl
s/v Screamin' Seaman
'87 C25 WK/SR
http://www.perryyachtclub.com/index1.html
Home Port: Lake of the Forest, Bonner Springs, KS

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 08/05/2005 :  10:11:55  Show Profile
Hi Earl,

Congratulations on your new boat!

I can't answer all your questions, but I'll make a few comments and try to point you in the right direction. When you get a chance, browse through past topics ... there is a wealth of info here, and it will help you get off on the right foot.

- 'Don't know how many wing keels were built, but there are far fewer than either fin keels or swing keels. I think Catalina introduced the wing keel in the mid to late 80's, and it was intended to replace the swing keel model.

- I don't have any personal experience with the wing keel, but others have reported that it doesn't seem to point quite as high as the fin or the swing.

- Good luck finding a trailer ... they are scarce. I think someone reported that EZ Loader no longer makes trailers for our boats ... 'not sure about that, but there are other trailers that work fine.

- Here is a link to a recent discussion of using the A-frame to step your mast: [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9623"]Mast-raising A-Frame[/url]

- As for naming your boat, that's a really personal choice. Here is a link to a huge list of names that might give you some ideas for the perfect name for your boat: [url="http://www.boatus.com/names/top10.asp"]Boat names directory[/url]

- Once you choose a name, don't forget the denaming/renaming ceremonies ... you don't want to piss off the sailing gods, and the ceremonies are a good excuse for a party : [url="http://www.48north.com/mr_offline/denaming.htm"]Boat denaming ceremony[/url] [url="http://www.c34.org/renaming.html"]Boat renaming ceremony[/url]

I'm sure others will chime in here and give you some additional ideas (like getting the handbook from Catalina Direct) ... but ... and most important ... I would encourage you to join our Association ... it will be the best $20 you spend on your new sailing adventure.

Welcome to the group, and good luck with your new boat ... you're going to love it!

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GeorgeB
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Response Posted - 08/05/2005 :  13:18:54  Show Profile
Hi Earl,

Congratulations on the new boat. When I faced the issue of trailer for my boat, I hit nothing but dead ends on finding a used trailer. I decided to buy from Triad. I have had nothing but good luck with the trailer. This is the web site. http://www.triadtrailers.com/boat_models.htm

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 08/05/2005 :  13:32:00  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Earl, congrats on the 'new' boat.

The name for your boat will come to you at the right time.
We went through several ideas for a name but couldn't agree.

Finally I said that whatever the name is going to be, it has to be a joint decision.

There it was.


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mmac
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Response Posted - 08/06/2005 :  01:16:57  Show Profile
Welcome Earl,
In our fleet we have a couple of fins and a couple of wings. Usually the fins seem to do better to windward, but off the wind the wings really take off.

Take your time in finding a name for your boat and be careful. Some of these "salty" names like "Breaking Wind" are pretty close to names for power boats Last year there was a thread on how/why we gave our boats their names. You might search the archives for it.

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ArgonautEC
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Response Posted - 08/07/2005 :  20:24:04  Show Profile  Visit ArgonautEC's Homepage
Thanks to everyone for your responses. Funny story about how you came up with the name Joint Decision, Paul. Mike from San Diego, I crew on a Catalina 38 each year in the Newport to Ensenada race in April and the San Diego to Ensenada race in October on Feudian Sloop. Have you participated in these races? Does anyone have any suggestions on "go fast" equipment or modifications to the C25? I noticed a reference to an asym spinaker. Where can I get more info on a C25 asym spinaker?

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Esteban
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Response Posted - 08/07/2005 :  21:14:49  Show Profile
Check out http://www.ullmanventura.com/frset.htm I just got an asymetrical spinnaker from Gary Ullman in CA. I got to play with it one afternoon when winds where at two knots at best. I will say I was really amazed at what you can squeeze out with the spinnaker. On what seemed like a dead still wind, once hoisted the boat moved around three knots. You can tack with the spinnker and it was pretty effective from a run to somewhere between a beam and close reach - but certailny not past that. Winds never picked up past five knots and I managed to hit four knots for a bit of time. I don't race, but for the Jul-Aug no winds timeframe in the Chesapeake this sail is really a plus.

Dying to try this out on a long run wing to wing with the jib.


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