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treuland
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Initially Posted - 03/08/2006 : 10:07:57

Does anyone have the dimensions for a plate to cover the open part of the mast sail slot to retain the slugs? My boat is in storage so can't get to it easily to properly design it. Thanks, Terry

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 10:23:52

Terry,

Although I made my own gates, you can buy them from Joe Martek who is listed at the bottom of the Links page on this website. I believe his are made from stainless steel and I think they were fairly inexpensive.

I'm not positive, but I think I remember hearing that these same ones are available through CD...?

Edited by - dlucier on 03/08/2006 10:25:52

Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 11:00:36

I am not certain either Don, but I think Catalina Direct has purchased the rights to those from Joe...I thought I heard that. Catalina directs are just as good.

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Brian King
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 11:02:47

My '89 has a cutout on one side of the groove only. I believe I emailed Joe at some point, but he only sells pairs. Does anyone know where I can get a cover plate to fit an '89?

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 12:26:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 I am not certain either Don, but I think Catalina Direct has purchased the rights to those from Joe...I thought I heard that. Catalina directs are just as good.
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Ask Catalina Direct about that, and then just buy a pair and keep the extra one for when the first becomes an offering to King Neptune.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 12:36:16

The 89 uses a diferent gate, I will post a good phot of it tonight if I can remember to take the photo.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 13:25:05

I talked to Joe last season. He sold the rights to the gates to CD.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 13:42:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by aeckhart
 I talked to Joe last season. He sold the rights to the gates to CD.
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I thought I remembered something to that effect...thanks for clearing it up.

Maybe we need to remove Joe's name and email address from the links page...

Edited by - dlucier on 03/08/2006 13:43:17

Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 14:38:53

mea culpa, I am the one who told Lowell about the mast gates and gave him Joe's contact information. To CD's credit they have created a kit with the bit and tap needed for the install.

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IndyJim
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 17:11:04

A couple of years ago I read a thread on here about mast gates. I wondered what the heck they were and why I would need them. Then I bought some from Joe Martek. And you're correct. His are stainless. Within a week I wondered how I lived without them for so long! I too believe that Joe sold the rights to CD. If you don't have mast gates, the price is very reasonable and the benefits are great!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 18:22:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 mea culpa, I am the one who told Lowell about the mast gates and gave him Joe's contact information. To CD's credit they have created a kit with the bit and tap needed for the install.
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I suspect Joe is still making them, and let CD do the marketing and distribution. CD doesn't really make stuff... except "kits". Adding the bit and tap are a nice touch--I had to go out and buy a tap. (You DON'T want to attach them with self-tapping screws--it's not appropriate for something you want to install and remove periodically.)

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tinob
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Response Posted - 03/09/2006 : 11:52:26

For the do it yourselfer Bill Holcomb has descriptions of homemade mast gates using aluminum carpet edging. Quite simple he attests. Search the archives if interested.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/09/2006 : 12:38:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tinob
 For the do it yourselfer Bill Holcomb has descriptions of homemade mast gates using aluminum carpet edging. Quite simple he attests. Search the archives if interested.
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He's handier than I am--I tried doing my own with similar aluminum and with stainless... Never got them to work very well.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/10/2006 : 10:09:59

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tinob
 For the do it yourselfer Bill Holcomb has descriptions of homemade mast gates using aluminum carpet edging...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
He's handier than I am--I tried doing my own with similar aluminum and with stainless... Never got them to work very well.
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My homemade gates, made from aluminum carpet edging, are going on 5 years now.

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wmuchmore
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Response Posted - 03/10/2006 : 21:38:12

I got a set of mastgates from Catalina Direct last September. Cost $38.95. CD's part number is E9017. Description given is:
"Mastgater C-25 Sail Track Gate. Fits mast track sail entrance slot and allows sails slides to slide past. Installed with two 10-24 machine screws. Can be easily removed to remove sail from mast. Set of 2 for C-25 includes drill and tap for easy installation."
What they don't say until you read the installation instructions is that there may some filing and grinding needed to fit them to your mast. Apparently the slots vary in size from mast to mast. I haven't gotten around to putting mine on yet, because I made a set from carpet trim years ago that work fine. So don't know how much actual cutting and fitting is necessary. Actually, if I knew it was going to be a cut & fit project (stainless is tough to work with) I wouldn't have bought the ones from CD.

Mike Muchmore
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 03/10/2006 : 21:51:28

... What they don't say until you read the installation instructions is that there may some filing and grinding needed to fit them to your mast. Apparently the slots vary in size from mast to mast. I haven't gotten around to putting mine on yet, because I made a set from carpet trim years ago that work fine. So don't know how much actual cutting and fitting is necessary. Actually, if I knew it was going to be a cut & fit project (stainless is tough to work with) I wouldn't have bought the ones from CD. - Mike

It's been a while since I installed the mast gates on my boat, but as I recall, the filing is done to the slot in the mast (not the stainless mast gates) ... it really isn't a difficult project.

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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 : 00:34:33

I made mine from carpet edging. For me the trick was to put a slight bend or two so the flat edging would fit the curve of the mast. I did it with a vice and rubber mallet.

The first pair did not fit properly, so I made another pair. I did the final filing at the boat. Good thing about the carpet edging is you get a long piece really cheap.

I did use self-tapping screws, but put Never-seize on them every time I take the screws out. Five years and no problems...I do have to touch them up occasionally with the file or tap them with my small ball-peen to restore the shape after an especially rough reefing day.

Jim williams
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 : 08:53:50

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by wmuchmore
 Actually, if I knew it was going to be a cut & fit project (stainless is tough to work with) I wouldn't have bought the ones from CD.

Mike Muchmore
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When you see a set installed you will be impressed. I put some on my 82 and they did not require any filing at all. They don't just cover the hole, leaving the hole behind them to hassle slugs, they fill in the hole making the kerf smooth and continuous. They really are very impressive.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 : 09:48:13

A Joe Martek mast gate on a C250...

Photo courtesy of Bryan Beamer

Edited by - dlucier on 03/11/2006 09:48:42

DanM
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Response Posted - 03/13/2006 : 08:15:04

The plates do offer more movement of your sail (downhaul, etc.). But if you would rather not drill holes and it's just that you don't want the sail slugs dropping out, try a track stop. WM#108332/Davis # 2350
$8.99, page 891.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/13/2006 : 08:36:11

The gates are needed for a clean reef. Stops keep the slugs too high.

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