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Tom Potter
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Initially Posted - 12/18/2005 :  18:00:59  Show Profile
I got around to finishing up a couple mods I've been wanting do this week. I wanted extra room to put things so I built a teak shelf in the V berth. (thanks Tom G. for the teak pin rail, really made the difference).

Work in progress


The finished product


Found this teak Magazine rack on E-bay



1997 250 TR WK (sold)
1984 O'Day 28 (sold)
1979 SISU 22
Bath, NC.

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sailorman
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Response Posted - 12/18/2005 :  22:51:28  Show Profile
Looks great Tom. How did you attach the shelve to the teak strips? Or did you attach it to the fiberglass?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/18/2005 :  23:07:11  Show Profile
As much as I hated to, I screwed it down to the teak strips.
(you missed a good day on the lake today)

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sailorman
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  00:00:26  Show Profile
I know-- I had to work.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  07:21:13  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Tom, Great looking joinery projects...

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JohnMD
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  07:21:18  Show Profile
That really does look good! Just the project I was thinking about. Can you please tell me about how deep you made it? I was going to try and mount mine with a few small blobs of construction glue instead of screws. Do you think that will work? I was also thinking about sticking one of those new Sylvania Dot-It lights under the shelf so I could have some illumination in the middle of the night. Thanks again.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  15:49:21  Show Profile
John,
I don't remember the depth of the shelf. I wanted to keep it between the front hatch and the drop down of the anchor locker so it would not interfere with access to the front hatch. You may want to use screws instead of glue in case you decide to remove it someday.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  17:34:47  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
John, here is the construction page for a similar [url="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/vpeak.html"]V peak shelf[/url] with some starting dimensions for those who have a water ballast without the teak strips

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zeil
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  18:50:11  Show Profile
Wow... what a great looking V berth teak shelf... like the looks of the open fiddle very much. Did you make or buy the spindels? Love to us your design and upgrade my last winter's project...

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  19:06:26  Show Profile
I traded some teak boards with Tom G.(atgep), he gave me the teak pin rail. I think the pin rail came from Tom's dads boat, so its been around for awhile. After a few coats of teak oil it looked new again. (thanks again atgep)

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atgep
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  20:30:11  Show Profile
You are welcome Tom. Thanks for being the teak fairy! The Teak rail was a scrap from my parents 1979 prairie 32! Try as I may, I could not find a use for it on my 25. (too long or short)

Looks great Tom.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 12/21/2005 :  01:40:07  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Arlyn, will your dimension numbers work with a '01 wing keel with the teak strips? Thanks.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/21/2005 :  06:55:26  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Frank...I'm doubting that the dimensions are the same.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/21/2005 :  08:51:16  Show Profile
Frank,
I picked up some poster paper from a hobby shop and laid it across the V area and traced along the teak strips with a pencil to make a pattern. If remember right I needed to tape two pieces of the poster paper together to get enough length to go across.

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JohnMD
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Response Posted - 12/21/2005 :  10:28:46  Show Profile
Thanks for the link Arlyn. Being a poor boy, I'll probably use oak plywood and some 'rope looking' molding I came across. I also found some stain that looks very 'teaky'. If it comes out good I'll put up a picture.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/22/2005 :  07:52:57  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
This Maurice guy is obviously bogus and offensive. We have a very good record on this forum of avoiding posters like this. He will be removed and I hope he will not bother to hit us again. His only purpose is to post his signature links to online gambling which is completely inappropriate. He did not even leave an email address so we could ask him to stop, only more links to online gambling. Please avoid his links until we can purge him. (Scum are so annoying!)

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/22/2005 :  08:04:04  Show Profile
Delete him Frank, and thanks!

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 12/23/2005 :  12:00:54  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
Thankx Frank. I like this forum a lot. Actually I think I'm addicted
That is the first post of that kind I ever remember seeing here. We certainly would not want it to become infectious.

Tom,
I'll be out to check on Chick-a-pea today so I'll take a pic of my aft berth shelf in case you didn't see it on the Cumberland trip. Wish I had some teak wood. I've made a V shelf, hatch board, dinette, aft shelf and hatch board to the battery compartment all out of stained plywood just to warm the interior a little. The "Clorox Bottle" stigma got to me! I also intend to replace the smoked plexiglass fiddles around the galley top with wood.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/23/2005 :  17:23:22  Show Profile
Thanks Ben, I would like to see the pictures of your aft shelf. I've been paying with a few ideas but nothing's set yet. I've been eyeing the area behind the wet locker in the aft area. One things for sure, I want to make one big enough to store a few days worth of cloths on. The last couple trips we have taken we lived out of suit cases and I'm tired of that. So yea, post those pics


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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 12/23/2005 :  18:08:24  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
Here's a view of the new border paper I just installed. That is the V shelf up there with Sid sitting on it. It has the fiddles on the bottom so it just lifts out if I need to remove it. I also found those picture frames at Garden Ridge for $2 apiece. They add a little touch of home. But I removed the glass. One thing I don't ever want onboard is glass shards.





Here is the aft view. The shelf is attached to the bottom of the cockpit mold but only floats on the ledger board that is screwed to the hull mold. That way if there is any movement between the two molds it won't tear something loose.




And here is the hatch board with a smoked plexiglass port'l. Teak would be better. Maybe some day when I am retired I'll have time to replace them.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/23/2005 :  20:23:29  Show Profile
Looks great Ben, its amazing how the wood warms things up. Couple of questions. Does your aft shelf go all the way back? Did you use only screws to mount the shelf to the liner? What's that mounted to the cockpit liner to the right of the picture frame, below the poptop frame in the aft berth area?

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 12/24/2005 :  11:22:56  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
Yes the shelf is mounted only with ss screws and escutcheons. The other black thing is the back side of the BOSE cockpit speakers. You can see the wire with the red wire nut going back into the battery locker.
PS. and yes the shelf goes all the way back.


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mday
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Response Posted - 12/24/2005 :  23:57:58  Show Profile
Ben,

Your boat certainly looks comfortable! Lots of very nice improvements.

I found the aft battery compartment cover interesting. Mine's been broken since I bought the boat. I've just left it open until I get around to constructing a more functional cover. Any details on what you did there? Like how it attaches and opens.

Thanks, Max

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 12/25/2005 :  20:22:12  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
I just felt like putting some wood grain below so I took the original and traced it on the plywood. The back side has (let me see if I can describe it) two wood clips. The top ones longer than the bottom so that the clips slide behind the panel opening. Stand by... I'll make a drawing.

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mday
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Response Posted - 12/26/2005 :  00:32:22  Show Profile
Ben,

A drawing would probably help. I do have the original (broken) panel, and the system you describe is how the original is secured. My "wood clips" were broken and I tried to repair it by gluing the pieces together, only to have it break again. I believe something was not right with the dimensions of the "wood clips" that made the panel difficult to remove and reinstall without breaking the clips.

Any comments from Tom or others reading this on an improved rear access panel?

Thanks, Max

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/26/2005 :  10:13:00  Show Profile
Max, I have to fold the corners of both the aft mattress out of the way to get my rear panel to come out. The first couple times I tried to take the panel out (before moving the mattress) I had a heck of a time, even heard the "wood clips" crack once. I new something was amiss, I had to be doing something wrong. Now since I fold the mattresses I've had no problems, its easy. I fold them enough so that when I lift up and pull out and drop down there's no pressure on it from the mattress.

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