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redviking
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Initially Posted - 01/25/2008 : 13:13:44

Now that we got everyone listening to the radio again, I started thinking about other stuff that bugs me while out cruising.

#1. Anchor light on while in the mooring field or at a dock. Turn the damn thing off! How am I supposed to know that you are not at anchor and that I should not go near you?

#2. BBQ on the stern rail while sailing. OK, maybe you are gonna use it while out there, but if not take it down. Looks sloppy and is potentially dangerous.

#3. Not enough chain while on the hook. NO, your 35 foot BendyToy needs more than 15' of chain and a 22 lb. fake Bruce anchor to anchor anywhere near me. Get a dock!

OK - that's my top three.

Whatcha got?

Sten

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piseas
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 13:31:15

Hum, let me think...
1. idiots in their big motor boats that create huge waves near me, making my dog fall overboard or my guests freak out. They could with slow down or move away from me.
2. idiots that throw trash like plastic bags/cup, etc or propane tanks overboard.
I am sure I can think of more but I hate long winded messages on this forum-that bugs me. So I will keep it short.

Steve A

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 14:26:21

I don't pay much attention to how other people do things on their boats as long as they stay clear of my boat. My only pet peeve is when someone arrives late at an anchorage, and anchors within my swing arc. Then I have to decide, do I want to engage in a shouting match with him (you usually can't persuade them that they're too close), or reset my own hook, or gamble that the boats won't bump together at 3:30 a.m.

Years ago a group of us chartered a 46' Morgan in the BVIs, and we had a checkout skipper the first day who was young, blond, petite, voluptuous, and wore a tiny bikini that she knitted herself. (It probably only took a few minutes to make it.) She said that, if anyone did that to her, she'd row over in the dinghy, pull up his anchor and place it on his foredeck. We pointed out that she could undoubtedly get away with that, but we'd probably get shot.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 15:11:07

1. Power boaters
2. Power boaters with stereos
3. Power boaters

those are my top three, I won't bore you with the rest of the list.

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saribella
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 15:24:00

Ignorant port tackers who think they have the right-of-way & powerboaters.

People who I invite out on my boat,where I spend my time motoring with the 2 miles to the pier head (most of which is in a crowded no wake zone), and then as soon as I set the sails they tell me they have to be somewhere in an hour & powerboaters

Offshore breeze that blows the flies out over the water & powerboaters.

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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 15:36:53

OK, OK!! I guess I'd better not read any more of this thread...

- Long-winded powerboater

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 16:49:24

I anchored single handed on short scope in a crowded Dana Point harbor on my way to Catalina for an overnight. I got the anchor down, backed down, set it, and was swinging safe well in front of another boat. It was late, and very windy. I had just had a 55 mile day to windward. I carry 50 feet of 5/16 chain on 1/2 inch rope in front of a 15 lb danforth just for this anchorage. That boat behind me told me I was sitting on top of his anchor and asked me to move. I told him I dropped my hook way over by the pier and was no where near his anchor, I also pointed out that I couldn't possibly swing into him. My boat being on top of his anchor in 20 feet of water was no hazard. He persisted and insisted I move. So I did. In 25 knots of wind single handed I got the anchor up, moved over about 50 feet, dropped it again, fell back and was sitting right next to the complaining sailor but also at risk of swinging into the swimming area.

Of course a 65 foot trawler came right into the spot I just left, anchored the same way and ended up in the exact same spot. That was OK with the sailor who told me to move.

He later apologized to me but it makes me mad that people see me in a C25 and assume I am a floating hazard.

By the way I have a barbeque on the stern rail and I'm proud of it. It is not a hazard.

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tmhansen
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 17:54:53

What a fun topic for a windy rainy day.

Most of the worst behavior I see occurs at ski lakes - lack of consideration for others - loud music, wakes.

Last year I got steamed when a #&*@ with a overly large ski boat with too loud stero yelled at my son in his opti to get out of his way. I was too far away to intervene but someone on a nearby houseboat pointed out that my son had right of way, was making limited way, and had no place else to go.

Not really a peeve but a major disapointment is when I take a out non sailing guests and as soon as the boat heels they start to freak out.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 18:22:07

I mostly do not get upset with what others do on their boats as long as it doesn't effect me and/or others in the vicinity. One exception perhaps are the motorboaters that can easily pick areas outside the channel to have fun pulling along waterskiers but choose to do it right in the middle of sometimes busy narrow channels...and this oftentimes is with kids waterskiing or being towed along on those inflatable rings. It's taking unnecessary chances when one falls off and another boat is heading down the channel.

Pet Peaves:

1) Why is it that some motorboats seem to coincidentally race all over the place and then have to come to a stop right in front of your path.

2) Another motorboat peeve: It seems sometimes that the motorboats are actually aiming at me until they closer and thenpull off in one direction or another.

3) When in the channel and practicing red right return...why are there some motorboats approaching from the other direction and all the way over on my side...they have the whole basic channel to themselves.

But for the above infrequent instances, I find that the majority of the motorboats and sailboats are fine boaters...just out there enjoying themselves.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 20:08:42

1-People who sail with the fenders hanging.

2-People who sail with the outboard dragging in the water.

3-People who don't like my grill hanging off the stern rail.

4-People who run generators, or their inboard engines, to generate power while at anchor or the dock.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 01/25/2008 : 20:11:46

1. Personal watercraft
2. Personal watercraft
3. Power boaters who creat a large wake in front of you when you are racing in drifter conditions.

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 00:50:52

Black Sole Shoes

That's It.....

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 01:06:10

Winter

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 07:20:47

OK Randy - I'll take the BBQ one back and replace it with "Guys who insist on standing up in their dingy's for $500 Alex." Just why do they do that? One good wave and they will need to get pulled out.

Back to the BBQ for a second. I've left it hooked up on our C25 several times without incident. But there were two times where I regretted it and vowed not to do it anymore. Once was when it leaked a bit of fats, olis and greases on the stern rail and I didn't notice it until heeled and needing to hold on to that rail. The other time a guest backed into it, turned quickly and caught herself on the handle or mount or something, ripped her shirt and put a nasty gash in her back.

And finally, some of us have engine driven refrigeration which means I have to run at least 45 minutes every other day to keep the icebox cool. But I never run late at night, early in the morn, or during happy hour - also pet peeves.

Sten

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 08:21:17

1) Inconsiderate boaters, be they power or sail
2) When several very large people don't realize they can't all sit on one side of the boat. hahahaha, but really ..........
3) Bridge tenders sleeping on the job.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 09:43:42

My personal pet peeves center mostly around arrogant boaters, be they power or sail, who believe the only right way to do something is their way.

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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 10:10:05

Racing on Port tack upwind, the starboard tack boat approaching, I bear off to give way. then I notice he is starting to bear off. I bear off even more, and he does the same. Then we collide. Nice chunk of gelcoat out of my boat. On shore he tells me he was just trying to get out of my way. My response, know the rules and follow the rules as the other sailors expect you to do it. My other suggestion was that he stay onshore while I was on the course. Didn't see him on the course again that weekend.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 10:25:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Chris Z
 Racing on Port tack upwind, the starboard tack boat approaching, I bear off to give way. then I notice he is starting to bear off. I bear off even more, and he does the same. Then we collide...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's an old favorite! "Stand-on" means just that--avoiding the "Shall we dance" syndrome.

As a newly minted "powerboater", I'll add: Sailors who are running under power with their sails up and think they have the rights of a sailboat.

As for sailing with the outboard in the water, I did it often when daysailing to nowhere... Put it in neutral--the only problem was the alternator would sing a little tune.

I guess it could create some confusion as to whether I was under power or not--under the rules you define that with a day-shape. (Anybody ever used one?)

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 01/26/2008 : 15:44:09

1 - growth on my (boat) bottom
2 - lack of beer
3 - black soled shoes, unless that's all she has on, then it's ok.
4 - choosing the smaller headsail (hank-on), then having the wind speed drop in half 30 minutes later.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/27/2008 : 09:12:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 My personal pet peeves center mostly around arrogant boaters, be they power or sail, who believe the only right way to do something is their way.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I agree with that Don!
This is a good thread Idea for a SNOWY day

My wife claims I've become Archie Bunker in my middle age. Ergo I have a bunch

1. Powerboaters who call themselves sailors or claim to go sailing but have never been aboard a boat with a mast.
2. dry boats (and I don't mean boats in dry sail slips)
3. Southern Sailors who talk about their beautiful daysail in January and don't even recognize what they are doing to us up North.
4. Guys so anal about keeping everything clean and ship shape that they forget the boat is there to sail and it rarely leaves the dock.
5. People who cast judgement on dark soled shoes before finding out if they are actually marking soles or not.(
6. Sailors who don't help newbies find their way.
7. Sailors who forget that without powerboats there would be no RC
8. Old Salts that flem (put into flemmish coils) the double braid not even realizing what they are doing to their line. (or their deck)

Questions on some of your peeves:
#2. BBQ on the stern rail while sailing. OK, maybe you are gonna use it while out there, but if not take it down. Looks sloppy and is potentially dangerous. are you referring to cooking or just having the grill locked down and covered on the rail?

4-People who run generators, or their inboard engines, to generate power while at anchor or the dock.where else are you going to run them? I kind of get the dock if there is power there but not the at anchor. I can see all night long being an issue.

3. Power boaters who creat a large wake in front of you when you are racing in drifter conditions. on the flip side derek - I tell all my powerboater friends to create a huge wake behind me in drifter conditions.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/27/2008 : 09:31:38

Champipple, I had two bad experiences with BBQ's on my C25 while under way (See previous post)and we now remove them on SV Lysistrata when not in use.

On the generators thing... Yeah, that is a big pet peeve - but we rarely run into it because it is so rude. But some of the cruisers we have met think that they are living on land with all of their flatscreens running, surround sound, every light, etc... They will let these things drown out the peace and quiet until they finally get tired of watching "Master & Commander" 4 times in one night and shut it off. One of the funnier moments on the ICW was when we were passed by a singlehander who was very chatty on the VHF of course. Anyway, we were buddy boating with our swedish friends on Elvina who were about a mile or so ahead of us. That night an anchorage was chosen and we proceeded in after Elvina to find that the chatty singlehander was also there - and running his generator. He invited us all over and when he found out that Elvina was from Sweden he promptly put on his huge flat screen the whole ABBA video connection. We all groaned internally and took long swigs of whatever we were drinking. 5 minutes into our feature presentation the generator gave up leaving us all in the dark becasue this guys batteries were so low that he practically had to run the generator just to get going in the morning. Gotta go...

sten

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 01/27/2008 : 09:57:05

Originally posted by D. Wolf;<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">3. Southern Sailors who talk about their beautiful daysail in January and don't even recognize what they are doing to us up North.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I really am very sorry Duane ................... really.

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Response Posted - 01/27/2008 : 10:43:14

There are two cigarette boats across from us that absolutely shatter the serenity of an otherwise quiet marina. When they fire up and go - it's really disturbing but sorta quick, too often they spend considerable time tweaking the engines...it is so incredibly disruptive, I'm trying to get my slip moved, but given the layout of the marina, there isn't really any place far enough away from these motorheads.

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Response Posted - 01/27/2008 : 12:24:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jerlim
 There are two cigarette boats across from us...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">There's a good one--"Real Men's Boats".

(By comparison, I have to be careful not to leave my boat with the engine running--it's that quiet.)

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piseas
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Response Posted - 01/27/2008 : 21:17:17

I don't really mind cigarette boats as long as they arent by me. Florida is better.
Steve A

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Response Posted - 01/28/2008 : 15:39:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">8. Old Salts that flem (put into flemmish coils) the double braid not even realizing what they are doing to their line. (or their deck)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

OK, I'll bite: What, exactly, does it do to their line?

--Jim

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