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wmeinert@kconline.com
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Initially Posted - 08/20/2008 :  08:56:44  Show Profile
September is quickly coming! As of to date we have had only one member interested in serving as an officer of our association. This is not a good sign. We are required to hold elections by September 30th to replace current officers. After questioning our current officers none of us are willing to serve a second term including myself. Not because it's a bad job or to much responsibility, but most of us have been around for a while and have other things to do.

What this all means is that unless we receive some nominations and volunteers soon, our association may have a defunct leadership, IE no one to steer the boat! So please nominate or volunteer someone to further lead this organization.

Bill Meinert
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Justin
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  10:04:59  Show Profile  Visit Justin's Homepage
We need volunteers! Come September, if there are no new officers, our association will soon cease to exist! This very active community we have here on the forum that so many enjoy will disappear without having an organization to support it. This website and all the knowledgeable information stored within will be gone if there is no leadership to manage the finances and pay the hosting company. Who is willing to step up and become an officer? We need your help <b>now</b>.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  10:33:28  Show Profile
For those who might be interested, it isn't a big burden to serve as an officer in the National Association, if you don't want it to be. The officers should have quarterly meetings, by telephone conference call. They have to pay the bills and answer occasional questions from the members. Most of the Assn's. business is set up so that it mostly runs itself. The main event each year is the National Regatta, but the officers only select the site, and the members of the local club do all the work of organizing the event. The National Officers don't even have to attend, although it's nice if one or more does so. Of course, you can <u>make</u> it a big job, if you wish, but most people don't do so. For the most part, you can perform your duties as an officer at your computer keyboard. Don't be intimidated by the thought that it's a big sacrifice. It really isn't that difficult.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  12:09:12  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
If no one wants to help out I'd be willing to serve in some role again. There really is not much too it and I always enjoyed the monthly conference call.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  12:20:58  Show Profile
I'm not playing possum here, I just can't take on another volunteer commitment this year. Sorry, guys.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  12:41:32  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Could anyone speak to the roles to be filled and the requirements of each role?

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  13:47:40  Show Profile
Shortly after I retired from my heavy-travel job (which did allow me to sail with Jim B. once), I sold my C-25, so I'm not eligible--sorry. Besides, imagine what some people would say if the $+!nkp*++er was an officer of this association!
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Could anyone speak to the roles to be filled and the requirements of each role?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
FWIW, from the Bylaws:

<b>Responsibilities of the Officers</b>

<b>COMMODORE:</b> The Commodore shall preside at any Association or Officers Meetings, approve any annual reports or official actions of the Officers, appoint special committees as required, rule on procedure and jurisdiction, authorize expenditures and perform other functions as may be warranted for the proper management of the Association. The Commodore shall also fix the date of any Association or Officers Meetings (Article VI), and shall coordinate Association activities with other Catalina Fleets and yachting organizations.

<b>VICE COMMODORE</b>: The Vice Commodore shall, in the absence of the Commodore, preside and perform the duties of the Commodore, and such other duties as specified by the Commodore. The Vice Commodore shall serve as Chairman of the Nationals Organizing Committee (“NOC”) and, as such, shall solicit bids from the Fleets to host the Nationals for the following year (Article VII).

<b>SECRETARY</b>: The Secretary shall, in the absence of the Vice Commodore, preside and perform the duties of the Vice Commodore. The Secretary shall maintain the minutes, records and membership register of the Association, as reasonable. Furthermore, the Secretary shall be responsible for providing for the posting of the minutes, calls for meetings and nominations, and distribution of ballots, as set forth in the other sections of this document. The membership register of the Association may be reviewed by any Officer upon request being made of the Secretary.

Fleet development manuals may be obtained from the Secretary, and contain valuable information for consideration in the formation of a Fleet. The minimum requirement for the sanctioning of a new Fleet is the participation of three Regular Members of the Association; although an Officer review of the Fleet By-Laws for the applicant is desirable.

<b>TREASURER</b>: The Treasurer shall, in the absence of the Secretary, preside and perform the duties of the Secretary. The Treasurer shall maintain the financial records of the Association, as reasonable. Furthermore, the Treasurer shall receive dues and fees, deposit and disperse funds, prepare financial statements, and generally conduct the financial affairs of the Association. The financial records of the Association may be inspected by any Member, in good standing, for any reasonable purpose and at any reasonable time upon thirty days written notice to the Treasurer. All check expenditures shall be authorized by the signatures of any two of the following: Commodore, Vice Commodore, or Treasurer. A petty cash fund may be established by the Treasurer by a vote of the Officers (Article VIII, Section B).

<b>CHIEF MEASURER</b>: The Chief Measurer shall maintain the Design Class Rules, serve as Vice Chairman of the NOC, and serve as Chairman of the Class Racing Committee (“CRC”). The Chief Measurer as NOC Vice Chairman shall, in the absence of the NOC Chairman, preside and perform the duties of the NOC Chairman. Furthermore, the Chief Measurer shall make evaluations, presentations and recommendations to the Officers regarding significant or controversial changes or rulings related to the Design Class Rules or the Rules of Racing. The Chief Measurer or designate shall administer and interpret the Design Class Rules and shall supervise the measuring, recording and inspection of all sails and boats (including compliance with class rules) at Nationals.

<b>CAPRI 25 MEASURER</b>: The Capri 25 Measurer shall maintain the Design Class Rules in conjunction with the Chief Measurer. The Capri 25 Measurer shall, in the absence of the Chief Measurer, preside and perform the duties of the Chief Measurer, and such other duties as specified by the Chief Measurer.


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KD4AO
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  14:13:45  Show Profile
I would be willing to help out if need be. I have not paid dues in the 2 or so years I have been reading the forums because the relationship has been a casual one and to my knowledge I have never been invited to do so. I am willing to contribute though. My profile contains some information about me if anyone is interested.

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wmeinert@kconline.com
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  14:48:30  Show Profile
Just so everyone knows, the 2009 Nationals will be held in Berkley, CA (SF Bay), the RCC already been nominated for Vice Commodore so this would be a great time for our west coast fans to get involved as officers, it is time for you guys to show us your stuff! The midwest and east coast guys have been at this for a while.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  14:54:08  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
I certainly don't want this association to fold. What positions are open. I am willing to assist including volunteer positions. How can I help. Lets not see this association go down the tubes.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  15:26:59  Show Profile
This is a terrific organization and I would be happy to serve. I would prefer not to be the Treasurer. If I had my choice I would go for vice-Commodore and serve under someone else to learn the ropes. Then I'd consider Commodore next time around. This forum and Association are too important to let slide.

On the other hand I can be a pain in the butt.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 :  22:39:30  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
If the Sec job is open, I would happy to tender my name for that position.

Paul

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wmeinert@kconline.com
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  09:19:36  Show Profile
Well, based on the two posting things are looking better, we will take the names down and get back to you all soon, the more the merrier!

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  15:38:16  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Bill, that is great. Guess we needed to hear the words: defunct and cease to exist!
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Kendall
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Response Posted - 08/21/2008 :  19:03:26  Show Profile
I was pondering, How do you contact the members who dont use the forum?

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  07:55:29  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Kendall</i>
<br />I was pondering, How do you contact the members who dont use the forum?
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Good question!
See page 55 of the Aug 2008 Mainsheet 'Annual Reward'

Paul

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wmeinert@kconline.com
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Response Posted - 08/28/2008 :  09:15:01  Show Profile
The final close out of nominations will be September 5th at 1600. Please make all your nominations or volunteer prior to that date and time!

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Unsinkable2
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Response Posted - 08/29/2008 :  14:49:55  Show Profile  Visit Unsinkable2's Homepage
I'm very new to the forums and haven't officially joined yet, but will. The information here is extremely valuable, and I'd be will to do whatever I can to help out. I own two online businesses and have considerable experience with most things web-related, if that would be helpful. I feel like I need to put more time as an observer before I could help as an officer, just let me know what is needed :)

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  12:00:03  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
who are the nominees so far?

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wmeinert@kconline.com
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  12:20:17  Show Profile
Check the sticky at the top of the forum for list of canidates.

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KD4AO
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  12:34:06  Show Profile
Thank you for the nomination, I am, as of a few minutes ago, a paid member.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  13:25:27  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I accept the nomination, and thanks to all the other volunteers. Lets have a good, fair, election.

Ties we can decide on the race course!

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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  23:05:56  Show Profile  Visit Peregrine's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JimB517</i>
<br /><b><u>I accept the nomination</u></b>, and thanks to all the other volunteers. Lets have a good, fair, election.

Ties we can decide on the race course!
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<font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="3"><font color="blue">I am glad to see you (JimB) step up but I do not see any nomination in the posts.
Was this done privately by e-mail? And if so by who (whom?). </font id="blue"></font id="size3"></font id="Comic Sans MS">

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/03/2008 :  08:58:06  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Peregrine</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JimB517</i>
<br /><b><u>I accept the nomination</u></b>, and thanks to all the other volunteers. Lets have a good, fair, election.

Ties we can decide on the race course!
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<font face="Comic Sans MS"><font size="3"><font color="blue">I am glad to see you (JimB) step up but I do not see any nomination in the posts.
Was this done privately by e-mail? And if so by who (whom?). </font id="blue"></font id="size3"></font id="Comic Sans MS">
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Jim volunteered his services in his August 20 post. In substance, he nominated himself, which he can do, as a member in good standing.

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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 09/04/2008 :  22:42:35  Show Profile  Visit Peregrine's Homepage
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William Meinert posted above;
<b> <i>"Posted - 08/28/2008 : 09:15:01
The final close out of nominations will be September 5th at <u>1600</u>. Please make all your nominations or volunteer prior to that date and time!" </i> </b>

Odd when this was first posted it said <b>"2400"</b> hrs.

After it was pointed out that on the <b>“Nominations as of 09/02/2008” </b> thread that there was a discrepancy where William Meinert posted;
<b><i>“We will close out this nomination period on 09/05/2008 at <u>1800 ET</u>”</i> </b>

He then changed the post above to read;

<b> <i>“The final close out of nominations will be September 5th at <u>1600</u>. Please make all your nominations or volunteer prior to that date and time!"
Edited by - wmeinert@kconline.com on 09/04/2008 09:25:17”</i> </b>

I asked why the change and why was the post pointing out the discrepency deleted?
No answer so far.
Hmmmm…..?

Really no reason to get upset by the question it was just …
A question.
But Commodore Meinert felt it needed censorship and an edit to his original post.
But if he was going to edit his original post why not make it conform to the <b>“1800 hrs”</b> post.
Instead we now have conflicting times. Is it <b>1800 hrs</b> or <b>1600 hrs</b> and why not the original <b>2400 hrs</b>?
All very curious.
Inconsequential but curious none the less.

Will he now edit all the posts to a new time and delete this post?
And if so why?

Peregrine - #4762
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/05/2008 :  09:35:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Peregrine</i>
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William Meinert posted above;
<b> <i>"Posted - 08/28/2008 : 09:15:01
The final close out of nominations will be September 5th at <u>1600</u>. Please make all your nominations or volunteer prior to that date and time!" </i> </b>

Odd when this was first posted it said <b>"2400"</b> hrs.

After it was pointed out that on the <b>“Nominations as of 09/02/2008” </b> thread that there was a discrepancy where William Meinert posted;
<b><i>“We will close out this nomination period on 09/05/2008 at <u>1800 ET</u>”</i> </b>

He then changed the post above to read;

<b> <i>“The final close out of nominations will be September 5th at <u>1600</u>. Please make all your nominations or volunteer prior to that date and time!"
Edited by - wmeinert@kconline.com on 09/04/2008 09:25:17”</i> </b>

I asked why the change and why was the post pointing out the discrepency deleted?
No answer so far.
Hmmmm…..?

Really no reason to get upset by the question it was just …
A question.
But Commodore Meinert felt it needed censorship and an edit to his original post.
But if he was going to edit his original post why not make it conform to the <b>“1800 hrs”</b> post.
Instead we now have conflicting times. Is it <b>1800 hrs</b> or <b>1600 hrs</b> and why not the original <b>2400 hrs</b>?
All very curious.
Inconsequential but curious none the less.

Will he now edit all the posts to a new time and delete this post?
And if so why?

Peregrine - #4762
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What <u>is</u> your point? You said it best yourself. It's <u>inconsequential</u>. So, what do you want Bill to say - that he made a mistake? He doesn't need to do that, because we're all grown-ups here, and we understand that we all make inconsequential mistakes every day, yourself included, I'll bet.

You act as if there's a nefarious conspiracy going on to prevent people from seeking these jobs as unpaid officers that most people don't really want, but they accept out of a sense of duty to this association that provides us all so much useful information and pleasure.

If you want to resume your participation in this association with the purpose of sharing your knowledge of sailing, then I would welcome you back, but if all you want to do is vent your frustrations on people who don't deserve it, then I suggest you leave us alone and go back to your blog, where you can agree with yourself.

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