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SailCO26
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Response Posted - 01/21/2009 : 16:33:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by delliottg
 No idea how it was done, but I just jumped in front of half the fleet. I gained over 64k spots in the space of a couple of hours. I have a feeling it's a glitch and I'll end up back in the rear guard by the end of the day.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I had something similar happen prior leg - the system was updating ME, but not everyone else. Basically looked like all other boats parked but I kept going. The way I noticed it was I was making about 10kts, and gaining about 10nm/hr on the leaders...

I dont recall if it was a server reset or just a refresh and/or re-logon on my end that cured it.

If the above is NOT the case, then congrats on the moves on a large chunk of the fleet!

Jim

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 13:01:28

No shortage of wind today. Anybody plan to take the channel inside the island?

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 14:09:11

I'm considering taking the inside channel but will make my final decision when I've gotten a little closer. If I have the time to be able to check in on the race hourly or so to make adjustments, and the winds holds, I'll probably take it. It looks like it will be quite a few closely spaced tacks if the wind holds up as it is now.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 14:09:58

Take a look at the track of Phoenix2 (currently in 4th place). That's gotta be on autopilot with wind angle tracking. I only see a few actual tacks the rest are all micro adjustments resulting in a curve that follows the wind angle (I think?). Someone bought widgets.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 14:18:09

My apologies to Mary Frances & FPS II whoever you are, I just now checked my inbox on the race for the first time in several weeks and saw that you two had both requested to be added to our group. I've added both of you now, so who are you?

I keep track of VORG-association goings-on in here far more than in the VORG, so if you need me to do something with your account there, it's best to post here about it. I realize this is somewhat convoluted, but so far it's worked fairly well.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 14:44:06

All the leaders seem to be on autopilot, or at least the ones I can see. Now we know how to win.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 15:41:07

Otto? Who's that???

I'm also reserving my decision on route for later. If it's looking like a lot of short tacks during the nights, I'll probably take the easy way up. Since I dont run widgets, guess I'm not likely to win anyway...
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Jim

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 16:35:51

Yup! Pheonix2 must really want one of those TNG watches!

If you go to the Ranking (lowest icon in the right hand vertical tools) and click on Phoneix2 then close the tools you'll see the stuff they have active - the works!

Still sailing barebone here! I'm back down below 29,000

I just did some number crunching. (and used the lat/long caculator in the tech tip area.

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I took the lat and long (they are reversed on the game site) of pheonix2 and I interpreted them as 19 56 00N 112 31 00E
and the finish bouy 35 57 00N 120 17 00E
and that comes out to 1900km (kilometers)
and 1 kilometer = 0.539956803 nautical mile
so 1900km =1026nm
Which is pretty close to the game report of 1036nm

Then I did the calc for JD, from current position to the channel entrance.

I have about 930km = 502nm to the entrance of the channel between taiwan and the mainland, at around 10knots, that's about 50~ huors! So (unless the crew falls asleep at the wheel again) JD should be at the entrance about 8pm EST Sunday night!!! Argggg!

And guess who's on watch then!

Paul.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 17:38:13

Ok, is it me, or did the 1-23 23h wind change twice? I swear the wind I was looking at an hour ago is different than what I'm seeing right now...I must be getting delusional.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 19:39:46

I just checked, wind looks the same as it was 5pm

Paul

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 20:11:16

Thanks, it's official, I'm delusional:)

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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 21:27:14

I hate this game!

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/24/2009 : 19:05:49

BailUsOut! Hard a'starboard! You're about to hit Hainan Island.

Maybe you're going for some Hainanese Chicken Rice? Or visit the USN's P-3 Orion's emergency landing zone?

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Response Posted - 01/24/2009 : 20:49:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by delliottg
 BailUsOut! Hard a'starboard! You're about to hit Hainan Island.
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He's taking the scenic route

Paul

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Response Posted - 01/25/2009 : 07:22:00

Late Breakfast!

The past couple of days have been without incident. The crew has settled down now that they realize that we can gain or loose 30,000 places in a couple of hours, but we can make them up again.

Pretty basic sailing here in the middle of the pack, a few course changes each day, nothing major.

Then WAMMO! The stats. decided we should head up NOW! (what happened to his normal subdued tone, has he not gotten over the plank issue yet?) So he ordered a 'hard a port 90º, Steer 352º!' So the helm did just that 'Ready About!' the crew scurried around the deck, grabbed hold of winch handles and adopted the position. 'Ready!' they called, the helm swung the wheel over, we spun on a dime, 'Lee Ho!' and the winches ground, lines loosed, eyes up, winches into 2nd gear, crew moves to windward, and the boat heaves! Boy it feels good to get some wake behind the boat. Crew sorts out the lines, helm looks around, the wake starts to straighten out and there's that roar from the transom as we stretch the sailcloth and leap forwards.

Thought we were doing so well! when a sqeaky voice below calls out.. 'Need some help here!' Boat now hitting nearly 15knots, and on a steady course, one crew sticks his head inside the cabin. These are not small cabins, raw, but not small! Chef of the day is laying on the cabin floor, eggs splattered all over. He looks at the peering head and says, 'Breakfast will be late!'

Funny, the crew actually laughed about it!

Paul

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Response Posted - 01/26/2009 : 12:58:50

Yepper.... this leg has been difficult on Bailusout. spent the weekend on top of a mountain in a cabin and no wifi! And out last weekend also.

SO I've been Running aground! And once you get aground it takes forever to get in somekind of favorable position.

I'm thinking about getting an air card...

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Response Posted - 01/26/2009 : 19:39:41

Well I'm screwed! I sailed 300 miles straight into the islands off of Taiwan and now I can't find my way out. I have literally sailed every direction after intially doing a 180 and still keep running aground. I don't know how I could do a simple 180 and sail into land again?

It looked like I had a clear shot out to the NW a few minutes ago but despite sailing thourgh what appeared to be an clear opening I ran aground again!!! Obviously the graphics don't agree with the programming code.

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Response Posted - 01/26/2009 : 20:45:09

Gary, I think the amount of time aground is the same amount of time at 180 from the direction you hit land.

ie. if you are agound 50 mins then you need to turn 180 and go ahead 50 mins before being free.

I went aground the other day but it was while I was online watching progress, I did a 180 and was off within minutes. But on the last leg I was aground for at least an hour, and it took over an hour till I was moving.

paul

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Response Posted - 01/26/2009 : 20:50:21

I'm not sure about your theory Paul, but you certainly can't get out of being aground (on this leg) very easily. I've been aground at least three times, and the first one was a doozy (that's why I'm back of the pack). I spent the better part of a day caught on an island that was shaped like a catcher's mitt, took me all day to get off of it, thought I was off twice before I actually was.

I've only run aground once on all the other legs, and all I did was turn slightly away from the course I was on (maybe I was in soft sand or something), and off I went, never thought about it again.

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Response Posted - 01/26/2009 : 21:19:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by britinusa
 Gary, I think the amount of time aground is the same amount of time at 180 from the direction you hit land.

ie. if you are agound 50 mins then you need to turn 180 and go ahead 50 mins before being free.

I went aground the other day but it was while I was online watching progress, I did a 180 and was off within minutes. But on the last leg I was aground for at least an hour, and it took over an hour till I was moving.

paul
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Paul,

I was actually online when I ran aground and was aground no more than five minutes. It took me almost 2 hours to finally figure out how to get away from the islands. I moving at 13 knots right now.

I've been noticing some strange things about the way my track is displayed. My boat is supposed to be pointing 336 degrees at this time but the bow appears to be pointed more northerly. The pink track appears to be correct but it's odd looking for the bow of the boat to be pointing about 30 degrees to the right of the actual track line. The speed appears to be correct just the direction the bow is pointing. I noticed this to a lesser extent on an earlier tack.

Have any of you noticed this?

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Response Posted - 01/26/2009 : 21:21:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by delliottg
 I'm not sure about your theory Paul, but you certainly can't get out of being aground (on this leg) very easily. I've been aground at least three times, and the first one was a doozy (that's why I'm back of the pack). I spent the better part of a day caught on an island that was shaped like a catcher's mitt, took me all day to get off of it, thought I was off twice before I actually was.

I've only run aground once on all the other legs, and all I did was turn slightly away from the course I was on (maybe I was in soft sand or something), and off I went, never thought about it again.
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As I mentioned earlier, I think the graphics are so obscure that once you go aground you can't get out easily because you can't really see enough detail to avoid the other obstacles.

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Response Posted - 01/26/2009 : 22:12:17

Gary, ditto! bow is showing off course line.

Paul

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Response Posted - 01/27/2009 : 10:32:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GaryB
I've been noticing some strange things about the way my track is displayed. My boat is supposed to be pointing 336 degrees at this time but the bow appears to be pointed more northerly. The pink track appears to be correct but it's odd looking for the bow of the boat to be pointing about 30 degrees to the right of the actual track line. The speed appears to be correct just the direction the bow is pointing. I noticed this to a lesser extent on an earlier tack.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I've seen this, too. It appears that the points written into the historical tracking dont necessarily correspond to when you tack. I noticed that very few of the turns that show up in my history are where I actually made the turn, and during times of short tacking it actually looks like I was headed into the wind.

We'll probably get this all figured out right about the time the races end...

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by britinusa
The crew has settled down now that they realize that we can gain or loose 30,000 places in a couple of hours, but we can make them up again.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yeah, it's always disconcerting to watch those "Places lost:" messages every time you're on P.

Jim

Edit: and I just figured out I've spent the last 14+hrs under jib instead of genoa...
Doh!

Edited by - SailCO26 on 01/27/2009 12:45:53

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Response Posted - 01/27/2009 : 13:05:36

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">As I mentioned earlier, I think the graphics are so obscure that once you go aground you can't get out easily because you can't really see enough detail to avoid the other obstacles.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My friend Chris says you can zoom far enough in that the boat goes translucent, and you can see the surrounding islands or whatever is in your way. I haven't run aground (yet) since we talked about this, so I don't know how feasible this is.

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Response Posted - 01/27/2009 : 21:11:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by delliottg
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">As I mentioned earlier, I think the graphics are so obscure that once you go aground you can't get out easily because you can't really see enough detail to avoid the other obstacles.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My friend Chris says you can zoom far enough in that the boat goes translucent, and you can see the surrounding islands or whatever is in your way. I haven't run aground (yet) since we talked about this, so I don't know how feasible this is.
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You can also click on the icon that displays/erases the other competitors at any zoom level and it will make your boat translucent. I figured that out yesterday and that's how I was finally able to get clear of Taiwan.

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