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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 :  06:46:33  Show Profile
Don't know about the orientation of the mast plate, but what do you use for the boom vang? A bale on the mast step bolt?

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 :  07:26:07  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
For boom vang I have and eye in the bottom of the mast track.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 :  09:06:02  Show Profile
Keep the keel all the way down while underway. It is more stable that way, and it will hit bottom before your rudder will, protecting the rudder. And you won't have to worry one bit about the cable connection breaking. The Nissan 9.8 will push the boat to hull speed at about 1/2 throttle, at least that is my experience.
P.S. The only time I raise the keel is at haul-out or after touching bottom. Do you have a working depth gauge? If not, get an inexpensive fish finder, like an Eagle Cuda 300 or similar (about $80 on sale) and a toilet wax ring. Take about 1/3 of the wax and make a patty, being careful to avoid introducing bubbles in it. The wax holds the transducer against the hull. I placed mine right behind the keel volcano and it works very well there.

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 :  10:22:00  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
David, wrong thread I suppose

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/12/2011 :  14:20:31  Show Profile
I was responding to NCBrew's question on page 1 of this thread writing about traveling the ICW and shallow water. Didn't realize the thread had progressed so far. Sorry!

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 04/13/2011 :  01:51:38  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
Anyone got some pictures with this mast plate installed?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/13/2011 :  07:22:59  Show Profile
Tomas, I may be able to get pics of mine today. Regarding your pic above of the mast plate together with your tabernacle, sitting on the table, I believe that you have them positioned correctly. Do not bend the tab on the left of the plate. On my boat, there are 2 bolts that go through the deck behind the compression post. That's what those 2 holes in the mast plate are for. If you don't have that on your boat, you can add them or ignore them. You may have to have holes drilled in the plate to match the holes in your tabernacle and deck.

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 04/13/2011 :  12:37:32  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
Thanks David.
I have only 4 holes in the mast step and in the deck.
My concern is about the offset between the mast step and mast plate. If the side tabs should go more towards the cockpit.
Also if my picture is ok, can I use that front tab holes for something else than spinaker downhaul?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/14/2011 :  09:17:33  Show Profile
Referring again to your picture, it looks like you have the 2 pieces aligned properly. The mast step (the piece with the vertical slots) with the 4 holes you say should stay aligned with the 4 holes in the deck. The mast plate (the piece with 4 large holes on each side) should be placed under the mast step so that the 4 bolts will go through both and into the deck. If all 4 holes don't line up, line up the forward 2 holes and drill 2 more in the plate. That may leave the 2 holes in the plate at the rear unused unless you want to drill 2 more holes in your deck. Didn't get pics yesterday, will try again today. The first pic below is from my boat, the second is from another C-25 at our marina. I hope this helps. Note, I have not yet moved my jib halyard from the deck mounted block to the mast plate. I will when I get the double turning block installed out by the hand rail.





One difference I did notice: the mast step on our boats extends back to the end of the plate, where it looks like yours does not.

Edit: The more I look at your picture, I think you should turn your mast step around to face the other way. Look at the space on each side of the vertical slot, one side is wider than the other. Compare that to the mast and where the pin holes are. I believe the pin holes on the mast will be a bit closer to the aft side of the mast to make pivoting the mast easier. If that is true for you, then the mast step should be oriented the same way. In the pics above of the boats here, the slanted side of the mast step is facing aft.















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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 04/15/2011 :  00:18:12  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
Thanks David. It helped me a lot.

I'm still on the ground sealing many leaks (mostly from the removed deck mounted blocks - 4 holes per block ) with epoxy. Will post photos of my spring restoration once its done.

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 :  04:07:54  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
David, now I've realized that you have the mast wiring connector in the path of your future halyard blocks. Are you going to relocate that connector?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/18/2011 :  09:33:06  Show Profile
Probably not, since I've already run some , not all, new wiring to that deck connector. I think that I can place the halyard block to avoid the wiring. It is unlikely that I'll have more than 2 blocks on that side.

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 04/30/2011 :  11:57:54  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
Remove all that stand-alone deck mounted blocks, holes filled with epoxy and installed the modified mastplate:



I've also installed 4 sleave organizers and triple rope clutches Lewmar D1. They have advantage that you can release the rope even its under load.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/01/2011 :  07:49:03  Show Profile
Looks good!

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 05/01/2011 :  11:54:23  Show Profile
Wow--a wooden mast! Do you have a gaff rig on that?

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 05/01/2011 :  12:07:44  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>
<br />Wow--a wooden mast! Do you have a gaff rig on that?
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Hehe... my brother had this rig on the oldtimer, what a huge main sail

PS: I'm still on ground, this is the mast support that holds the tent.

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NCBrew
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Response Posted - 05/08/2011 :  13:30:22  Show Profile
I was just looking over this older post andi noticed a couple of people asking for pics. You canto to http://www.blackpearl.vacationinnc.com

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