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Steve Milby
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Initially Posted - 03/21/2012 :  15:07:34  Show Profile
I have frequently mentioned crewing on "Triton's Fury", a 28' Pearson Triton on the Chesapeake Bay, and remarked about their seaworthiness. The Triton in the hyperlinked video is "Atom," and in this video, she is seen leaving Ft. Lauderdale at the start of her <u>second</u> circumnavigation. Two minutes into the video, she runs into heavy weather, north of the Abacos, and is sailing under triple-reefed mainsail. I thought you might enjoy the video, and the skipper's narrative.

Believe it or not, I have been on a Triton in much worse conditions than in the video, which explains why I have so much respect for the design.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRezahrT18I

Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
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KenDavis
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 :  17:37:54  Show Profile
Man, what a trip. I wasn't able to hear the audio yet, but the video was cool.

the heavy weather shots looking aft are intense. large waves walling up, its amazing to see that he isn't steering. some sort of tiller strap, and a windvane that I can't tell if is engaged.

Photos I've taken from the boat at what seemed like rough weather always look underwhelming afterwards.


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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 :  17:40:41  Show Profile
Gotta admire that guy.

Indeed - seems like an very capable bluewater boat.

Thanks for sharing Steve.

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zeil
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Response Posted - 03/21/2012 :  18:44:23  Show Profile

What a trip... wow... sign me up... but on a 28 footer and by the looks of it without an engine?

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  06:49:29  Show Profile
a Pearson Triton overview;
http://bluewaterboats.org/pearson-triton-28/

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Tradewind
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  07:38:39  Show Profile
My first boat was a Pearson Triton 28, SOMEDAY, bought her in Puerto Rico when I was stationed there in 1975, sailed to the USVI and BVI several times on her. Great solid boat.

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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  08:06:33  Show Profile
Steve, did you see this listing? http://sailingtexas.com/201101/spearson28108.html

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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  08:55:07  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by zeil</i>
<br />and by the looks of it without an engine?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Looks to me like he's motoring out of the inlet with a luffing mains'l at the beginning of the video.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  09:32:56  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JimGo</i>
<br />Steve, did you see this listing? http://sailingtexas.com/201101/spearson28108.html
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If there's one thing I don't need, it's another boat, but that looks like a good one, with a Yanmar diesel (most still have old Atomic 4 engines) and new Lewmar winches, wheel steering and it's condition appears nice. One reason why they sail well is because, to counter their full keel and heavy weight, they can carry lots of sail area to drive the boat. If you look at one in a marina, their mast is as tall as many 34-35' boats.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  09:34:27  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by zeil</i>
<br />and by the looks of it without an engine?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Looks to me like he's motoring out of the inlet with a luffing mains'l at the beginning of the video.
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He's being towed out by the boat ahead of him.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  09:40:34  Show Profile
Wow...$5500 for a strong blue water boat in pretty good nick? That's outstanding.

Although....looking at some of the heavy weather tossing about....I'm prone to seasickness....and might need something that tosses about a little slower!

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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  13:04:32  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">....I'm prone to seasickness....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I haven't been seasick, but my wife has. When we sail in the Gulf she swears by Bonine.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  13:06:57  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by zeil</i>
<br />and by the looks of it without an engine?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Looks to me like he's motoring out of the inlet with a luffing mains'l at the beginning of the video.
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Watch again, hes on a tow to get out of the channel.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  14:09:12  Show Profile
Yeah that video made me a bit green around the gills. I had the pleasure of sailing an old Pearson Commander last season, nice sailing boat.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  17:47:03  Show Profile
Oh yeah, I use Dramamine when I'm gonna be out on the ocean on a dive boat. I've never had an issue on a lake or with small swells...but was once on a dive boat in 6 foot waves, tossed about....underway I was fine, but as soon as we stopped and started rocking and rolling....oh yeah, I was done. There was nothing I wanted in the world more, than to get the hell off that boat.

I've never tried Meclizine or Scopolamine.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  18:12:24  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Davy J</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">....I'm prone to seasickness....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I haven't been seasick, but my wife has. When we sail in the Gulf she swears by Bonine.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I've been sailing longer distances in rougher weather, and got seasick twice in the past two years, after having gone 30 years without. This year I'm thinking about making a long bluewater passage, and got a prescription from my doctor for scopalomine patches. They're expensive, but each one lasts 3 days, and experienced bluewater sailors tell me they do the job. Dramamine worked for me in the past, but the scop patch behind the ear will work even when you can't keep a pill on your stomach long enough to get into your system.

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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  20:20:19  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Prospector</i>
<br />Watch again, hes on a tow to get out of the channel.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Oh... right. He's going to transit the Panama Canal without a motor? I have to wonder how you negotiate the locks under sail, deal with the currents, and short-tack in the presence of container ships in the narrower areas. Actually, I thought a working engine was required.

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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  20:34:42  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Prospector</i>
<br />Watch again, hes on a tow to get out of the channel.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Oh... right. He's going to transit the Panama Canal without a motor? I have to wonder how you negotiate the locks under sail, deal with the currents, and short-tack in the presence of container ships in the narrower areas. Actually, I thought a working engine was required.
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He already did this. The video was from 1987. I assume that he must have hired a tow boat.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  20:59:30  Show Profile
He was towed through the Panama Canal locks by another boat. Here's a video of the canal transit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wnXALvIWUs& context=C45258a0ADvjVQa1PpcFP9rqE1Kt4DuJYE1pA1hfWavKfqXt-ekmg=

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/22/2012 :  21:11:05  Show Profile
There's one more video of his approach to the Galapagos Islands. He said it was an 8 day passage from Panama. The previous time he made that passage, it took him 15 days, so this was a fast passage.

Notice he is flying his symmetrical spinnaker, solo, and the vane is steering the boat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HrBQfgYAf4& context=C49ccb5aADvjVQa1PpcFP9rqE1Kt4DuIFxr0tXO_YYI_J8N5LC8Ms=

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 03/23/2012 :  07:39:49  Show Profile
If he constantly needs a tow, then what's the point in not having a motor? You can't exactly brag about that part of it.

Edited by - NautiC25 on 03/23/2012 07:40:31
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Response Posted - 03/23/2012 :  07:47:55  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NautiC25</i>
<br />If he constantly needs a tow, then what's the point in not having a motor? You can't exactly brag about that part of it.
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Maybe you should post that question on YouTube. It might be interesting to see his response.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 03/23/2012 :  08:28:06  Show Profile
LOL, I'd rather not. But, I'm just saying that it seems like there was no bragging rights to not having a motor, and with that, not having a motor poses a safety factor should the mast come down.....or any other million things that could happen.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/23/2012 :  09:05:24  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NautiC25</i>
<br />If he constantly needs a tow, then what's the point in not having a motor? You can't exactly brag about that part of it.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I don't think it has anything to do with bragging rights. He seems happy to get a tow when he can, but, if not, he is also capable of making it under sail. If you have a motor, the motor and fuel occupy space that could be used for storage on a small boat making long passages. You could carry a lot of food and water and sailbags in the space required for a motor. My guess is he decided that, on balance, a motor can be a high maintenance item, requiring that he carry spare parts, and he needed the storage space more than he needed the motor.

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Response Posted - 03/23/2012 :  09:10:47  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NautiC25</i>
<br />not having a motor poses a safety factor...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Not having a motor forces one to become a better sailor.

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Response Posted - 03/23/2012 :  09:46:14  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Steve Milby</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NautiC25</i>
<br />If he constantly needs a tow, then what's the point in not having a motor? You can't exactly brag about that part of it.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I don't think it has anything to do with bragging rights. He seems happy to get a tow when he can, but, if not, he is also capable of making it under sail. If you have a motor, the motor and fuel occupy space that could be used for storage on a small boat making long passages. You could carry a lot of food and water and sailbags in the space required for a motor. My guess is he decided that, on balance, a motor can be a high maintenance item, requiring that he carry spare parts, and he needed the storage space more than he needed the motor.
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I was thinking more on the lines of an outboard with an integrated fuel tank. It wouldn't take up any of the space you mention. If he never used it, then great. But it would certainly make me feel much better knowing that it was there just in case. I rarely use a motor either, but I sure as hell keep it mounted and start it up each time I go out to make sure it works.

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