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ftworthsailor
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Initially Posted - 02/22/2013 : 15:07:41

I just wanted to say hello to everyone on this forum as I will soon take possession of a 1983 Catalina 25, fixed keel, fixer-upper. The PO removed all of the wood inside and out (except the bulheads) meaning to redo them and never did. This boat will need some fiberglass work on the bow where the front pulpit attached to the deck and the "Catalina Smile" on the fixed keel. The rest is just cleanup and to find and get the missing parts as I go. First order of business AFTER the fiberglass work is to find a good used Mainsail and to get the roller furler back in business. I currently have a 1980 Catalina 22 so I can take my time on refurbishing the 25. I will be asking lots of questions and post my progress along the way.

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Picture of my new boat: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_uAuSFDh_GI/USVAvMbds3I/AAAAAAAAF1s/qv9XGonKgOs/s720/royscatalina25.jpg

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Response Posted - 02/22/2013 : 16:18:29

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ftworthsailor
 Picture of my new boat:

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button in the Format toolbar to bracket the picture URL with [ img ] and [ /img ].)

Welcome! Fire away! We have members all over Texas.

Was she really out of the water since 1985?? And is that a single-axle trailer?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/22/2013 : 19:06:24

Welcome to the Association. Sounds like you've got quite a project there, but it should be fun, and you'll have a boat to be very proud of when she gets launched. Hull looks good. Assuming you still have the C-22, you could use the main from it until you find a C-25 main. If you have a standard rig, most of the difference in sail area will be at the head and a little bit along the leech. I drew it out on paper once to see just what the overlap was.
If that is a single axle trailer, even if it has a 5,200 lb axle, it won't be enough trailer for much of a trip. Be careful!

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 02/22/2013 : 22:16:59

Yes-that trailer does look a bit rough. The PO actually made this trailer for this boat. He drove it about 60 miles to his home without any issues. I have to drive it about 20-30 miles to get it to its new home at Lake Worth, TX. I am going to do this on a very early sunday morning so that I can drive extra slow and there should be NO traffic. Today I picked up the missing cusions and they look to be in some pretty good shape. I was happy that the PO to the PO had the Rudder, Boom, and spinnaker pole. Also all the missing wood cover pads under the cushions. I was a happy camper.

I do have two mainsails for the C-22, so hoping that one of them will work until I can get the correct one.

Cant wait to get the mast back up so I can roll out the furling jib and see what shape it is in....

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Response Posted - 02/23/2013 : 05:04:00

Welcome to the group.

There are several Catalina 25s in the Fort Worth area. There are three on the dock I am on at Eagle Mountain Marina and I think there are about three more on the lake. I have become a good customer of Mariner sail in Dallas as well as Catalina Direct for some things and also order from Defender as well. When you are ready for sails there are several places that have used sails that are in decent shape for cruising that I have seen mentioned on this and the Catalina Owners Group site.

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Response Posted - 02/23/2013 : 12:31:39

Roy, welcome. I am sure you will find this a great place to relax and learn much from a great bunch of sailors.
I would like to extend an offer to join as a member. There are many benefits. Click [url="https://www.catalina-capri-25s.net/cgi-local/MBR_system.cgi?Join"]HERE[/url] for info.
Steve

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 02/24/2013 : 08:20:12

Welcome aboard and congrats on the C25!

I'm on Eagle Mountain Lake, at Eagle Mountain Marina just 2 slips down from Howard. I've been doing quite a bit of woodwork restoral over the last year to my interior, plus new lights, marine head....etc...as the weather starts to warm again many of us will start being out at the marina and lake more often.

Do you have a lake house with dock on Lake Worth?

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 02/24/2013 : 08:44:42

Congrats on the new purchase! I'm down in SA, so if you ever want to trailer to Canyon Lake, let me know.

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Response Posted - 02/24/2013 : 20:03:18

Welcome - you'll find a huge amount of info in the archives. And if you can't find it in the logs, just ask!

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 12:59:55

Thank you for the warm welcome, everyone. Here is an update on my progress this past week: I was given the phone number for the PO to the guy I bought this boat from and he had ALL the cushions and the wood plates for under the cushions for this boat ! I also picked up the Rudder but no tiller or that chrome/brass piece that connects the tiller to the rudder. So would appreciate if you would keep an eye out for one of those for sale, for me. Still no sails for this boat, however I am hopeful that once I get the mast back up, the roller furling jib will be in some sort of descent shape. I also picked up some of the old wood that was pulled out of the boat and now understand why. It is in pretty bad shape so I will replace them as I continue to clean up and repair this boat. I also picked up the outboard engine mounting bracket and an anchor/chain/rope. External gas tank and some other items. I am still pretty excited about getting this project boat and look forward to launching her in the next few months.

Yes, I still have my Catalina 22 in a slip at Lake Worth. I bought this boat from a guy at Eagle Mountain Lake and kept it in dry storage at West Bay Marina for several months - launching it every Friday or Saturday morning and sailing both days. I moved it to Lake Worth in Sept-Oct '12 because I was usually out there sailing alone and watched the races in the lower bay. It wasn't until I started looking for parts for my C-22 that I happened upon the Lake Worth Sailing club and found out that they have 20-25 Catalina 22's, several Catalina 25's, and a small fleet of Satana 20's at this hidden, out of the way marina. Well, I can tell you that my involvement with this club has been extremely pleasant and I am now racing in their weekly races, every Sunday afternoon. As a matter of fact, I took 1st place at the first Winter Series races held a few weeks ago. I was out there again, yesterday, racing and having an absolutely AWESOME time as winds were howling at nearly 20-25 knot. Then suddently, as I was rounding the "c" bouy, doing just over 7.0 mph (according to my gps/route tracking software), and as we were coming about, I switched sides in the cockpit and pushed the tiller out to stabilze the boat and take our new heading..... When I heard a "crack"!! I looked at the rudder/tiller and the darn tiller snapped right at the bracket. My race was over.......... Dropped both sails, fired up the outboard and cruised back to port. Sad day......... Now I need a new tiller for my C-22.

Edited by - ftworthsailor on 02/25/2013 13:07:41

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Response Posted - 02/25/2013 : 14:28:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">chrome/brass piece that connects the tiller to the rudder. So would appreciate if you would keep an eye out for one of those for sale, for me<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Roy, CD was mentioned above but maybe you missed it. They have all the parts for Catalinas.http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 02/26/2013 : 16:03:10

I R A member.....

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triley
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Response Posted - 02/27/2013 : 20:20:46

Welcome! Such fun. Glad you ahve a 22 to keep you going while you get this bird flying. She will ne a beauty.

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 02/28/2013 : 07:10:34

I may need to sell the C-22 in order for me to afford buying the parts needed to get the C-25 into the water and sailing, again. I definitely don't need two boats. LOL

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Response Posted - 02/28/2013 : 07:32:33

I've been to both of the stores below, and they each have a large inventory of used sails. You could call and ask about the size you want to learn what they have and in what condition.

I really have enjoyed visiting Minney's where they have a million sailboat parts all organized into milk crates and display cases and shelves. If you email them a photo of whatever small part you want, I bet they could find one for you at 90% off the retail price! I've picked up various blocks, clutches, fairleads, and brackets at Minney's.

Bacon's is right in my neighborhood, on the Chesapeake Bay, and they have lots of good equipment, too.

[url="http://www.minneysyachtsurplus.com/"]Minney's Yacht Surplus [/url]

[url="http://www.baconsails.com/"]Bacon Sails [/url]

Welcome to the Association and happy sailing!

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 02/28/2013 : 07:38:30

That would definitely help me get back in the water sooner. I need things like all the lines and pulleys (cars and travelers, etc), as well as the navigation lights that go in the bow. They were removed for some reason..... and now they are lost. Lots of little things to do, however definitely will be worth the effort. I have always wanted a boat that I can sleep comfortably on. If I don't sell the C-22, I may cannibalize some of the block and tackle from it so I can go sailing sooner on the 25. (Yeah, I get impatient and just wanna go for a sail in my 25) lol

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/02/2013 : 18:00:47

Thanks Chuck. I just noticed your signature. Do you REALLY have the very first Catalina 25 (Hull #1)? That is TOO COOL ! ! ! Do you have pictures of her?

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/02/2013 : 20:01:36

I went out to the marina today intending to raise the mast, however found that there are some things that I need to replace/repair at the top of the mast first. Then I found that the PO must have kept much of the hardware that I needed.... Like Clevis Pins, washers, and cotter-pins. So I ordered the Pins from CD and will pick up the stainless washers and cotter-pins next week. Lots to do before I raise the mast. New anchor light, wind vane, need a pulley for the spinnaker, halyard lines to tie to the stainless cables..... good thing Im the patient type....... NOT ! ! !

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Response Posted - 03/02/2013 : 21:09:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ftworthsailor
 Thanks Chuck. I just noticed your signature. Do you REALLY have the very first Catalina 25 (Hull #1)? That is TOO COOL ! ! ! Do you have pictures of her?
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Yes, Confetti is hull #1. I bought her from Frank Butler back in 1976 after the sailing trials were completed at Anacapa Marine, at Channel Islands in California. I sold my Catalina 27 (hull #920)and have enjoyed daysailing, racing and cruising Confetti ever since.

This was just before we launched her in Florida after we moved from Houston, TX in 2009:

This was while racing on Galveston Bay. 57380 was our SCYA racing number:

This is a rather grainy telephoto shot but I liked it. It shows the #1 on the main.

And this was my youngest daughter and I racing here on the Banana River:

Cheers!

Chuck

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/03/2013 : 09:36:35

Awesome, Thanks for sharing. What does the inside layout look like. I understand that there were several different models one with a center table and adjustable pole and another, with a fold down table. Guess which I have...... an adjustable center pole and the fold down table (not attached to anything) Interesting dillemma....lol

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Response Posted - 03/04/2013 : 06:25:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ftworthsailor
 Awesome, Thanks for sharing. What does the inside layout look like.
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I'll have to find my pics to post any more pictures (still recovering from a PC Hard Drive failure). Interior is the setee layout, not the dinette. Port side has an "L" shaped setee with the L part aft towards the Galley area, leaving the bulkhead area open.

My table clips to two brackets on the bulkhead, and stows in chocks on the forward side of the bulkhead in the head area. I made an adaptor out of wood that clips to the traveller, and has a set of table brackets on it so we can also use the table in the cockpit.

The aft part towards the Galley has a seat back, with the galley and sink and drawers, etc. aft of the seat back.

Standard quarterberth area, with a removeable ladder for easier access in/out of the inboard side of the quarterberth.

Its been a good layout for us.

Chuck

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/04/2013 : 07:18:44

You are NOT going to believe what I found under the cockpit, port side!! A window air conditioner was fabricated and installed in it. The PO to the PO said that he installed it and it worked GREAT. Just have to open the seat hatch on the port side and keep it ventilated..... I have never heard or seen anything like it ! !

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Response Posted - 03/04/2013 : 08:42:42

Yes, this has been done and posted here before. There are only a few options for adding A/C to our boats....yours....a small unit in the bottom hatch board......an [url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product1_11151_10001_752457_-1?icid=HF4_AC_0809"]external unit in the forward hatch[/url]....really about it.

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Response Posted - 03/04/2013 : 11:09:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by cshaw
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ftworthsailor
 Thanks Chuck. I just noticed your signature. Do you REALLY have the very first Catalina 25 (Hull #1)? That is TOO COOL ! ! ! Do you have pictures of her?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Yes, Confetti is hull #1. I bought her from Frank Butler back in 1976 after the sailing trials were completed at Anacapa Marine, at Channel Islands in California. I sold my Catalina 27 (hull #920)and have enjoyed daysailing, racing and cruising Confetti ever since.

This was just before we launched her in Florida after we moved from Houston, TX in 2009:

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Chuck, hats off to you! Great that you are part of this forum!

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/04/2013 : 11:26:26

Chuck, How do you keep the hull so clean and shiny? Id like to keep my blue hull looking as good as this?

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