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lcharlot
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Initially Posted - 12/09/2003 : 20:27:18

CATALINA 25 OWNER SURVEY
I am compiling a list of all Catalina 25’s built, or at least as many as I can track down.
The list will contain basic boat data, and be used primarily as a buyer’s guide to the Catalina 25:
The list will be public-domain.

Data to be included:
1. Hull Number
2. Keel Type: Swing, Cast-Iron Fin, Encapsulated Lead Fin, OEM Wing, or Swing-to-Wing Conversion.
(any pre-86 boats with a wing are assumed to be conversions)
(Fin keels with stainless steel keel bolts are lead, carbon steel bolts = cast iron fin)
3. Boat Name
4. Model Year
5. Design Mark: 1, 2, 3 , or 4
Mk. 1 = all C-25’s with only one hatch on the portside cockpit seat (gas tank in the lazarette) (approximately 1977-1980 models)
Mk. 2 = Starts with first C-25 to have a separate gas tank locker, and ends with the last C-25 to have aluminum framed cabin windows. (approximately 1981-1985 models)
Mk. 3 = Starts with the first C-25 to have flush-mount windows and ends with the last C-25 to have a keel trunk recess (approximately 1986-1987 models)
Mk. IV = All C-25’s with the “lowered floor” following the elimination of the swing keel option (approximately 1988 to end-of-production).
6. Interior: L-shape dinette, Fore-and-Aft Dinette, or Traditional.
7. Rig: Standard (28’ mast) or Tall (30’ mast)
8. Rigging Hardware: Original Cast Aluminum spreader sockets or stainless steel sockets with upgraded chainplate eyes.
9. Engine Mount: Outboard on Port, Outboard on Starboard, or Inboard Diesel.
10. Special Items to Note:
Boat does not have a pop-top (a handful of the earliest boats were built this way).
Boat does not have a sink on the starboard side of the head compartment.
Boat does not have a foredeck hatch and/or anchor locker (were any built this way?)
Do you have information (the hull number, specifically) about any Catalina 25 that has been lost or destroyed and is no longer in existence?

Some of the other questions we are trying to answer with this survey:
a. When did the improved stainless spreader socket and chainplate kit replace the cast aluminum one as standard equipment?
b. When did the Lead fin keel replace the Cast-iron fin keel?
c. What hull numbers define the boundaries of the 4 major design phases (Marks), and do they correspond exactly to certain model years?
d. When did the factory switch from port to starboard mounting of the outboard bracket?
e. When did the factory switch from the L-shaped dinette to the Fore-and-aft dinette, or was there a period of overlap where both were being produced to customer order?
f. Are all of the Mark III’s and Mark IV’s “Traditional” interior, or were some built as Dinette interior?
g. What was the total production of Inboard Diesels? (believed to be about 50)

If you would like to participate in this survey, reply to this posting or e-mail me at: lgcharlot@lanset.com. The data will be compiled into an excel spreadsheet.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25WK/TR Mk. IV #5857 "Quiet Time"
Folsom Lake, CA

"You might get there faster in a powerboat, but in a sailboat, you're already there"

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Doug G.
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Response Posted - 12/09/2003 : 21:18:41

Larry, I will try to do this in your format:
1.#3767
2.Swing Keel
3.Pelican,( ex Glory Bound,ex Windy Deck)
4.1983
5.Mark 2
6.Fore- Aft Dinette
7.Standard
8.Stainless spreader sockets, I am not aware of chainplate history
9.Outboard Starboard
10.Pop-up top, no sink in head area,solid foredeck hatch and anchor locker.
I have assumed that both dinette layouts were customer choice,as my owners manual shows the "L", but my dinette is Fore-Aft. The Owners manual is original, but has no date. When I was boat shopping last summer,I think I saw my same year models with different dinettes.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/09/2003 : 21:53:19

1. 2790
2. Swing Keel
3. Mocca Latte
4. 1982
5. Design Mark: 2
6. Interior: Traditional.
7. Rig: Standard (28’ mast)
8. Rigging Hardware: stainless steel sockets with upgraded chainplate eyes.
9. Engine Mount: Outboard on Starboard
10. Special Items to Note: hull nav light, anchor rode notch, skylight, coamings boxes, porta potty, two teak/holly bilge access plates, two drawers in a full teak pannel below galley sink, teak door under stove platform. Cabinet above galley on port rather than continued fiddled tray, tray above settee stops at bulkhead between galley and port settee. Teak door under vee berth.

Edited by - Frank Hopper on 12/10/2003 11:34:03

Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/09/2003 : 21:55:04

Larry, here goes:-
#2262, 1981, Tall rig, fixed iron keel, traditional interior. Stainless brackets on spreaders (don't know if they were original or PO Mod.)Mark 2. O/B on port side. Pop-up top, sink in head area, porta-potti. Solid fore deck hatch and anchor locker.
Derek

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 12/09/2003 : 23:27:08

#2616 "Wood Duck" Standard rig, iron fin keel (encapsulated), Mark 2, traditional interior; stainless spreader sockets, starboard o/b on OMC bracket. Marine toilet w/ holding tank. I have made numerous mods in the following areas: anchoring (bow roller, Delta); electricals and communications (added circuit breaker board and brackets for all entertainment and communcn systems to starboard of companionway with two battery switch--contains VHF, GPS, depth, speed, bilge pumps switches and units); rigging: all tunning rigging led aft through fairleads to rope clutches.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 09:03:44

1. Hull Number: 1665
2. Keel Type: Swing-to-Wing Conversion.
3. Boat Name: osmepneo, po's name for her: Airhead
4. Model Year: 1980
5. Design Mark: 1
6. Interior: L-shape dinette
7. Rig: Standard (28’ mast)
8. Rigging Hardware: Don't know and doubt I can answer it til spring.
9. Engine Mount: Outboard on Port
10. Special Items to Note:

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Captain B
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 09:47:48

1. Hull Number: 4854
2. Keel Type: fixed
3. Boat Name: Pearl
4. Model Year: 1985
5. Design Mark: ll
6. Interior: traditional
7. Rig: Standard (28’ mast)
8. Rigging Hardware: Don't know and doubt I can answer it til spring.
9. Engine Mount: Outboard on starboard
10. Special Items to Note: none

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 09:49:03

1. Hull Number 4849 CTYK4849J485
2. Encapsulated Lead Fin with stainless steel keel bolts
3. Boat Name Antares
4. Model Year ? Built in October (J in hull code) 1985 (85 in hull code), but the factory stated that the boat is a 1986 model year
5. Design Mark 2 with separate gas locker and aluminum window frames
6. Interior: Traditional
7. Rig: Standard (28’ mast)
8. Rigging Hardware: Stainless steel spreader sockets
9. Engine Mount: Outboard on Starboard
10. Special Factory Items to Note: Bow pulpit nav light, anchor rode notch, skylight, coamings boxes, porta potty, two teak/holly bilge access plates

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 14:07:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">NO cockpit coaming boxes<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

A friend's '78 SR/FK also doesn't have them. They may have been an option on earlier boats.

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tdannar
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 14:31:26

FYI,

1. Hull Number: 1724
2. Keel Type: Cast-Iron Fin
3. Boat Name: Serenity
4. Model Year: 1980
5. Design Mark: 1
6. Interior: Fore-and-Aft Dinette
7. Rig: Standard (28’ mast)
8. Rigging Hardware: Originally Cast Aluminum spreader sockets (Recently upgraded to Stainless Steel)
9. Engine Mount: Outboard on Port
10. Special Items to Note: Pop top: No coaming boxes: Does have anchor locker on bow: A/C shore power: porta-potti: Boat does not have a sink on the starboard side of the head compartment: Boat did not have original (manual) bilge pump.

Terry Dannar
Catalina 25 FK/SR
Nacra 5.2
International 420
Cal 21

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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 16:02:41

Data to be included:
1. 2958
2. Cast-Iron Fin
3. Hey Jude
4. 82
5. Mark2
6. Taditional
7. Standard
8. Sainless steel sockets with upgraded chainplate eyes.
9. Outboard on Starboard
10. Special Items to Note:
Boat does not have a sink on the starboard side of the head compartment.

Jim Williams
Hey Jude C25fk 2958
SF Bay

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 17:47:13

1.#398
2.Cast iron fin
3.Indiscipline (was Miss Sociable, JoAnn when she was 4th in the nationals)
4.1978
5.Mark 1
6.L Shaped Dinette with pedestal table
7.Standard Rig
8.aluminum spreader sockets
9.Outboard port
10.Pop-up top, no sink in head area,solid foredeck hatch and anchor locker. I have the original plywood companionway doors (but also have upgraded ones). I have all the original paperwork including the order sheet from Catalina, all the options possible in 1978, the original quote, the bill of sale, all original condition Catalina manuals and documents.

Interesting that in 1978 the base boat was $9995. As equipped, my boat sold for $15,500 with no trailer.

I am hoping that I have the earliest hull # in the survey!

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 19:12:49

I am hoping that I have the earliest hull # in the survey!
Indiscipline 1978 FK #398 - Jim


Jim ... you just HAD to put the pressure on ...

1. #68
2. Swing
3. Freya (formerly Carpe Diem ... letters missing ... down to Carp

)
4. 1977
5. Mark I
6. L-dinette
7. Standard rig
8. Aluminum spreader sockets (replaced with SS by me) ?old chainplates?
9. Outboard PROPERLY mounted by the factory on the PORT side
10. PopTop, hanging locker in head area (NO sink), solid foredeck and anchor locker lid, Edson wheel added by a PO

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 19:41:22

1.#2459 (I am the PO)
2.Fixed fin Keel
3.Capricorn Two
4.1981
5.Mark 2
6.Traditional
7.Standard
8.Stainless spreader sockets, (I, too,am not aware of chainplate history)
9.Outboard Starboard
10.Pop-up top, no sink in head area,solid foredeck hatch and anchor locker.
11. Bow lights in hull. Stern light on starboard coaming (replaced with new Aqua Signal light on port quarter)

The brochure of that period shows traditional or fore/aft dinette as the two options. I believe the L went the way of the dodo bird, although it sure seemed like a good idea.

Stu

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NuNees
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 20:02:32

Larry,
1. 4953
2. Swing
3. Moonbeams
4. 1985 Aluminum frame windows and outside gas storage.
5. Mk II
6. Traditional
7. Stabdard
8. SS Speraders ... PO or Factory unknown.
9. Outboard Starboard
10. Pop top
11. Starboard Head compartmant sink
12. Anchor locker and a forward hatch (opaque)
Question: Did the factory install the motoer mount? Or was it the dealers job?

Good luck with your survey ... If you get to a point where response slows, perhaps some of us might survey the other C25 guys in the marina (who may not be members) ... just a thought ... come spring it'll be easier ...

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 20:58:22

Larry--you may already have this for me...

1. 5032
2. Encapsulated lead fin
3. Passage
4. 1985
5. Mark II
6. Fore-and-Aft Dinette
7. Rig: Standard
8. Stainless steel sockets with upgraded chainplate eyes.
9. Outboard on Starboard
10. Pop-top, head sink, anchor locker, no gas tank shelf in the dumpster

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 12/12/2003 21:18:00

dhunt
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 22:04:12

1.#800
2.Swinger
3.Solitaire - was a Great Lakes boat until 1999 then moved to Georgia
4.1978
5.Mark 1
6.L Shaped Dinette with pedestal table
7.Standard Rig
8.aluminum spreader sockets (for a couple of months more - that'll change in the spring)
9.Outboard port
10.Pop-up top, sink in head area, foredeck hatch and anchor locker.

Thanks for doing this . . . it's a HUGE task.

D

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Dan86
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 22:42:07

1. 5290
2. fin keel, encapsulated lead, i think
3.Toying with names, nothing official
4. 1986
5. mark III with flush mount windows, and slider top
6. Setee's port and starbd, with fold down table between (traditional?)
7. Tall rig
8. SS spreader sockets
9. strbd engine mount
10 Slider top, sink abreast of marine head, anchor locker, hatch in foredeck, "skylight" in foredeck.

Hope this helps, dan

Edited by - Dan86 on 12/10/2003 22:44:16

Rollins
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Response Posted - 12/10/2003 : 23:10:33

Larry:

Thanks for putting this info together. Here's the info on Wind Walker:

1. Hull Number 5947
2. Wing Keel
3. "Wind Walker"
4. 1989
5. Mark IV
6. Traditional Interior
7. Standard Rig
8. Stainless Steel sockets
9. Engine mount on Starboard Side
10.Has pop-top, starboard side head sink.

Mike Rollins
Wind Walker - SR/WK #5947

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 00:13:34

Larry, you may have all this, but here goes again:

1. #685
2. Swinger
3. Encore! (previously, Fine Whine, earlier Pacifier)
4. 1978
5. If you insist *see other thread....I suppose MK1
6. L Shaped pedestal table
7. Standard rig
8. Original aluminum spreaders/ updated to SS 2003
9. Port side bracket (updated in '85/Yamaha 9.9 OB)
10. NO sink opposite head/ FACTORY 4 drawers,1 cabinet/shelf
DOUBLE LIFELINES.....seems somewhat unusual???
No drawers, just cabinet doors in galley (dang)
No cockpit coaming boxes (have them to refit in 2004)
Plywood, not teak (dang) companionway hatch boards
Boat does NOT list to PORT!

Gary B.
Encore! #685 SK/SR
Commodore of Vice

Edited by - Gary B. on 12/11/2003 04:21:46

atgep
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Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 06:31:38

Thanks for taking on a big project. Would it be easier to have an on-line survey with certain pre-selected options? It should be able to tally the results as well. Either way, Thanks again.

1 5775
2 wing
3 Cote d azure
4 1988
5 mk 4
6 traditional
7 std rig
8 ss sockets
9 port engine
10 pop-top, Marine head, center sink

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Carl B.
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Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 20:12:52

Can’t wait to see the results of your hard work!
Here is my info.
1. #3098
2. Cast-iron fin
3. Oblivious
4. 1982
5. Mark II
6. Traditional
7. Standard rig
8. Stainless spreader brackets
9. Starboard engine mount
10. No sink in the head

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coach
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Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 22:37:49

1. Hull Number: JUST BOUGHT THE BOAT, HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP
2. Keel Type: Swing, Cast-Iron Fin, Encapsulated Lead Fin, OEM Wing, or Swing-to-Wing Conversion. SWING KEEL
(any pre-86 boats with a wing are assumed to be conversions)
(Fin keels with stainless steel keel bolts are lead, carbon steel bolts = cast iron fin)
3. Boat Name C'EST LA VIE
4. Model Year 1986
5. Design Mark: 3
6. Interior: L-shape dinette
7. Rig: Tall (30’ mast)
8. Rigging Hardware: stainless steel sockets with upgraded chainplate eyes.
9. Engine Mount: Outboard on Port
10. Special Items to Note: BOAT HAS POPTOP, HAS SINK
Boat does not have a pop-top (a handful of the earliest boats were built this way).
Boat does not have a sink on the starboard side of the head compartment.
Boat does not have a foredeck hatch and/or anchor locker (were any built this way?)
Do you have information (the hull number, specifically) about any Catalina 25 that has been lost or destroyed and is no longer in existence?

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CJ
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Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 23:10:41

I applaud your idea and effort.
Here is my info.
1. #95
2. Swing
3. Kick 'em Jenny (formerly Wind Dancer)
4. 1977
5. Aluminum framed windows, gas tank in cockpit portside hatch
6. Fore and aft dinette
7. Standard rig
8. Stainless steel spreader socket
9. Outboard on portside
10. Pop-top,no sink in head,porta-potti,foredeck hatch & anchor locker
PO added edson wheel with autopilot, depth,windspeed,compass and auto bilge pumps.

C.John
Kick'em Jenny - SR/SK#95
Long Island Sound

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rwall10597
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Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 23:26:15

ok, mine is 2259. I saw 2262 out there and I was surprised by a few major differences. Here goes:

1. #2259
2. Cast-iron fin
3.
4. 1981
5. Mark II
6. Traditional
7. Tall rig
8. Stainless spreader brackets
9. Port engine mount
10. No sink in the head

By the way, mine is in Lake Lanier outside of Atlanta GA.

I would be interested in seeing a copy when you are done.

wall8488@bellsouth.net

Bob Wallace

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ppetracca
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Response Posted - 12/12/2003 : 07:55:46

For you info...

1. Hull #4795
2. Keel: Encapsulated Lead
3. Yankee Spirit (formerly Argos)
4. 1985 (I am 2nd owner)
5. ?????
6. Traditional Interior
7. Tal Rig
8. ????? will investigate
9. Outboard on Starboard
10. Pop-top, sink in head, pressure hot/cold water in galley & head
(I installed), solid anhor & foredeck hatch, nav lights on pulpit
& pushpit, origo non-pressure alchol stove (original was
pressureized), foredeck dorade vent (looking for ne plug for
it??), teak/holly access in cabin sole 3 drawers in galley.

Hope this helps.

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