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existentialsailor
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Initially Posted - 10/19/2004 : 21:36:30

Out of curiosity, I'm wondering if folks are willing to divulge the cost of their slips and moorings. I was surprised at the low cost of slips in the Tampa area on a visit last week. I'm paying $2500 a year on a decent sized inland lake here in the northeast...

Rick

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/19/2004 : 21:58:33

We did this a while back and it was enlightening.
[url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4594&SearchTerms=bottom,wet"]How much does it cost to keep your bottom wet?[/url]
There are plenty of new people around to do it again. We have a very blue collar club, just plain work'n stiffs. I would guess that 90% of our members would not have a boat at $2500/year.

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/19/2004 : 22:04:36

$1,500 per year here in Oklahoma. Do you live in New Hampshire or just commute in? If in, where abouts? I've spent a bit of time in Wolfeboro, East central NH, and Portland, and think it is the most beautiful area in the country.

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Response Posted - 10/19/2004 : 22:08:27

My philosophy is, unless you're basing a decision to move by factoring in the cost of a slip, whatever it costs in your area is what it costs. If you do a search, I suspect you'll find a couple of long threads on this, with a wide range of numbers that have made some people feel bad and others good. It's a combination of supply, demand, basic costs (types of docks, real estate, taxes, labor,...), length of season, etc. All of those vary.

Around here on Long Island Sound, it's $2-3K for a 25' slip, and a little over $1K for winter storage. In my residents-only town club, the slip is around $1K, but that's an anomoly (and the slips are not really designed for a C-25). Where I'm moving, more normal prices will prevail.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/19/2004 : 22:09:50

I am sorry, I edited my post in the archive and it bounced the thread out of the archive and into the active area.

Please reply to this thread and not the linked one. This is where new post should be made.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 10/19/2004 : 23:10:18

Well, it depends on how you look at it. Our condo amenity fee is $275/mo which includes an 18 hole golf course with no greens fees, 14 har-true (sp?)tennis courts with no usage fees and a slip in the marina on the ICW. Slip has water, pump-outs are free, slip electricity is metered.

So, since I don't play golf, I guess I pay $137.50 for tennis and $137.50 for the slip. Or, $275 for tennis and a free slip. Or, $275 to not play golf and the tennis and slip are free. Or, .........

Steve

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 00:11:10

San Diego's Mission Bay Marina Village is close enough to $280 month as makes no difference, and thats nearly the CHEAPEST marina in town. Could pay up to $1000 a month for 25 foot slip at the fancy yacht club places.

Since we are in the water year round, I guess that $3360/year. $9/day.

Can't afford NOT to use the boat nearly every day!

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dbehling
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 01:45:18

This has been a rough year for our lake. Folsom Lake, Sacramento California. We pay for our larger slip $1200 a year. No electric/water. And now we are high and dry. We were able to put our boat in our slip in April, but,had to pull middle of July. Oh yeah, we can launch and still sail the lake, but you have to fight the powerboaters at the only launch facility we're our boats are dry stored. We choose in our situation, especially since we just bought the boat. To take her to the Delta $112 a month. With water/electric water all year. Then motor sailed to the Bay, we're we are paying $187 a month for water/electric/dock box, great view, and HUGE sailboats. But...it's the price we are willing to pay to enjoy our boat, which we totally do every weekend.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 06:57:41

I don't recall the exact amount we pay but for yacht club dues and boat storage it is around $600 for the season plus another $600 for winter storage. Our sailing season is approxiamately 6 months long. Part of the uneconomical justification of my new trailer and tug vehicle is the 600$ wiinter storage fee I'll save.

But, a 20 year payback is hardly economical.

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John G-
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 07:19:54

$35 for the mooring permit. That’s $10 more than [url="http://www.obmc.com/once%20in%20the%20harbor.htm"]Oyster Bay[/url] residents. We then pay $850 for the launch to get to and from the mooring. The launch runs till 1 am on weekends 11 pm weekdays and comes when called. Not bad for this area.
[url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/photo/peregrine2.jpg"]"Peregrine"[/url] is in the water from May 1st till Nov. 1st, which is coming up soon.

Underlined words are a HOT link.

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 08:35:47

I'm paying $1620/year for a 40 x 14 slip at a nice privately owned operation on the Chesapeake. This includes water & electric on the dock, pump out station in marina, anti-icing setups in the winter, etc. Yeah, it's a tad big for a 25 footer, but one side is sheltered by land & it's relatively easy to get in & out of. There is a boat yard nearby if I need to haul out, but I'm planning on leaving her in the water this winter (winterizing plans in place).

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 08:41:47

Folsom Lake Slips: nominally $100/month, payable annually, but since on average you get only 7 months per year of actual slip use (April-October), the slips are really $172/month. In drought years, (like 1991 and 2004), low lake levels cause the marina to have to close prematurely, making the actual cost of the slips $400/month for the three months that the marina was open (April 1-July 15). Dock type: wood, floating. Electricity: no. Water: no. Launch Ramp: yes. Travel Lift: no. Fuel Dock: 87 octane gas only (no diesel). Maximum boat size 27' x 9'
Folsom Lake Dry Storage: $67/month, but the downside of dry storage is you have to launch and retrieve the boat every time, so you have to drive a gas-guzzling tow vehicle, and you rack up increased wear and tear on the tow vehicle and trailer compared to keeping the boat in a slip.
Owl Harbor (lowest cost marina in the San Joaquin River Delta area south of Sacramento): $112.50/month, which includes electricity and water, which are not even available at Folsom Lake marina's slips. Dock Type: wood, floating. Electricity: yes Water: yes Fuel dock: none Launch ramp: no Travel Lift: no (nearest public launch ramp is 11 miles away at Brannan Island State Park). Maximum boat size: about 50'
San Francisco Bay Area: The average slip fee (for a Catalina 25 size boat) is $200/month. The cheapest marina in the Bay Area is about $150/month. About half of the marinas have floating concrete docks, the other half have wood docks. Maybe 1/4 of the marinas have launch ramps or travel lifts on-site, about 1/4 have fuel docks, and most of these sell both gas and diesel. Almost all Bay Area marinas probably have water and electricity at each slip (i'm guessing here). There seems to be very little mast-up sailboat dry storage available in the Bay Area, I can think of only one marina, Berkeley, that has it. I think their dry storage rate is about #75/mo.
Lake Tahoe: only one full-service marina I know of there, Tahoe Keys, and their slip rate is astronomical, or so I've heard, like $400/month for a 25' boat. Tahoe is at 6200' in the mountains, so the boating season is pretty much just Memorial Day to Labor day.

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bear
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 09:12:02

$800 a season May 1 - 30 Sept. $100.00 for electricity. Wet slip with floating finger dock. Winter storage with shrink wrap available. All on the North end of the Great Sacandaga Lake in upstate N.Y.

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Scooter
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 09:21:21

Not sure which post to put this reply in so copied it here too. Still learning the protocols.

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In Eastern NC I've seen anywhere from 7$-10$ per ft. (2 yrs ago) It goes up from there for the nice ones. Not sure what come with it. Not sure about the more "upscale" marinas?

We chose to go the route of finding our own property and either putting/having a dock on it or having one close by. We didn't want to pay those monthly fees if we could help it. We searched long and hard. Real hard. We got real lucky.

You do have a mortgage but ours is not much more than the monthly cost of a decent slip around here.

Would suggest that (if you can swing it) do the digging and find a deal on some land of you own. Ideally close to a marina you can get to for those emergencies etc... They're out there if you take the time and have patience.

Only drawback (if you can call it that) is that you don't have the company of other boaters near by. A marina often has some nice "neighborhood" appeal. Also helps when you need to borrow something you just gotta have for that afternoon sail.

Our nearest grocery store is 10 miles away. But, we like it that way.

What ever floats your boat. PUN intended

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 09:36:14

Roughly $100/month here. Floating fingers, 24 hour security patrol, power, water, laundromat, tennant restrooms with hot showers (50 cents), ... restaurant, small marine store.

Nice place.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 09:48:18

Oriental (Eastern NC) all marinas seem to be in the $80-$90 /ft/year range. That includes water, power, showers, pool. Marina has Diesel and Pump-out too.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 10:22:20

In eastern Oklahoma:

Slip: $1,575
Water: 60
Electric: 60 (min charge, doubles/triples in the summer)

$1,695 minimum...it's always higher.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 10:27:53

Urbanna Yachting Center, Virginia: I pay $ 960/year for my shallow water slip (thank you, swing keel) with water and electricity. The showers, office, and shop are about fifty feet from my slip. Several restaurants, stores, hardware (including stainless fittings) store, grocery store, town pool, churches, banks, and laundromat all within walking distance. The marina has a 20 ton travel lift, does repairs, and has a sail loft and gas dock.

Brooke

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 20:17:41

Thanks everyone for the replies, interesting mix. It is considerably different on the coast than on the inland lakes in this area.

Antares, I live and work here in NH. I'm not too far from Concord and about an hour from my boat. Eventually, I intend to move her to the ocean, but I'm too new a sailor to start there. I think a season on a large lake with lessons there and with my friend out of Kittery Maine will be a good experience. After that, I plan on mooring her on the sea.
Moorings generally coat about $1200 in the areas I've looked, but the waiting lists are a bit long.

Again, thanks everyone for the replies.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 22:16:19

Lower Chesapeake Bay (Deltaville): $1600/yr plus electric (usually around $10/mo) which includes a beautiful view, a wonderful pool (used a lot), gazebo (alas not screened), bbq w/ free charcoal, free pumpout, clean bathhouse, laundry, & captains lounge with tv (which I've only used once). There are cheaper marinas in the area, but the pool & location are a big plus for us.

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Response Posted - 10/20/2004 : 22:16:50

Pay $1625 in northern Indiana without power. That includes indoor winter storage.

Pay $70 a month for our place in Tellico Village outside of Knoxville. That includes pier space(no power) membership to yacht club and country club.

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Response Posted - 10/21/2004 : 21:30:34

The cheapest place on Hilton Head is $200/mo (2400/yr) for me. But they're getting ready to upgrade the marina so in a year they'll probably be between $250 - $300 per month minimum.
My slip is a mile from the ICW and Calibogue Sound, 4 miles from my house and West Marine. I try not to think that the slip fee could buy a boat every 3 or 4 years.
So I charter to help offset the cost.

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 10/22/2004 : 13:50:36

This is a very timely post for me. Forever Resorts is the concessionair at our marina, they have had the marina for 3 years. We were paying $120/month, last year increased to $135. We were just informed of an increase to $175/month plus an additional $10/foot for every foot that we stick out of our 22 foot long slips. With the bow pulpit and the outboard I figure 3 1/2 feet plus the 3 feet the hull is over or a total of 6 1/2 feet. So $175 plus $65 and we will be at $240/month. Water every 8 boats, power plug every 8 boats and we are not allowed to leave power connected. No dock boxes allowed, filthy bathrooms, Recreation District annual fees of around $250 to get in the gate and tag on boat. Don't get me wrong, we love this lake and we don't use the bathrooms anyway. The boat owner's are all getting together and challenging this huge increase the recreation district's Board of Control. Wish us luck.

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Tony Dillon
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Response Posted - 10/22/2004 : 16:06:01

In Tacoma, WA we are paying $185 a month, plus $10 if you have the shore power hooked up on the last day of the month. That is for a 29 foot slip. It seems to be about par for Puget Sound.

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 10/22/2004 : 16:28:35

Tony,

If you unplug on the next to last day is the rest of the month free?

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Tony Dillon
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Response Posted - 10/22/2004 : 19:06:51

As long as you aren't plugged in on the day they check it is free

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